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max_wedge
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I've found the same unreliability of 3.5mm headphones - this has been a problem since the first cassette walkmans.
3.5mm headphones port would be useful no denying it, but as you say, fastport is far more reliable and probably we are better off with fastport. It's a hard judgement call. If looked after, a 3.5mm socket can last a long time (just have to be careful to never laterally flex the 3.5mm jack), and they could design it with a cover to protect the phone innards.
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shyam335
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If u ask me,3.5 connectors are more tolerant to dust,dirt,moisture etc than fastport.
Ive always had problems with my fast port with dust/dirt..
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On 2008-03-28 08:30:41, shyam335 wrote:
If u ask me,3.5 connectors are more tolerant to dust,dirt,moisture etc than fastport.
Ive always had problems with my fast port with dust/dirt..
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On 2008-03-28 08:30:41, shyam335 wrote:
If u ask me,3.5 connectors are more tolerant to dust,dirt,moisture etc than fastport.
Ive always had problems with my fast port with dust/dirt..
True, but the 3.5mm is more prone to physical damage, whereas the fastport is prone to getting dirt on it but is almost immune to physical damage. You can always clean a fastport when it gets clogged up, easily, whereas a damaged 3.5mm socket is the end of using listening to music via headset. For me that would be the end of the phone's useful life 
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altemyr
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On 2008-03-25 23:54:55, max_wedge wrote:
The fastport doesn't "break".
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The fastport is actually a very damage resistant connector, but you have to keep it clean if you want good performance. Simple as that.
I'm afraid I do not quite agree. It's true that it's very damage resistant, and compared to a 3.5 mm jack it's very unlikely that the phone gets damaged if the cable is pulled out in a unfortunate direction, and it's also true that cleaning of the contacts does help in many cases, but the fastport connector actually DOES break sometimes. It's a pure mecanical issue. The plastic springs that are supposed to hold the plug in place tends to become too weak, or it may be the sockets they are suppoed to hatch into in the phone's fastport socket that becomes worn out after a while, and the result is that the fastport plug pops out of its position almost by itself, or by very little external force. I have seen this on many  phones with the fastport connector.
The design of a phone connector is not a very easy task however. To begin with, you want many connectors in order to be able to support many functions, like power iintake,speaker output, mic input, signalling and communication with accessories, etc, you want a robust connector that does not fall off by itself, but you also want a connector that actually does dieconnect and does not damage either the phone or the plug or the cable if exposed to accidental force. There are several solutions to this problem, but none of them are perfect. Nokia uses a separate connector for the charger, Motorola uses mini-USB (and thus serial communication to reduce the number of connectors), etc. An upcoming extra requirement is compatibility with other brands for accessories that can be connected to the phone. |
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I'll take your word for it, but I've never seen such fastport damage myself. I would expect it would involve undue care to cause such damage, not normal everyday use.
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PhR34k
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On 2008-04-01 02:11:56, max_wedge wrote:
I'll take your word for it, but I've never seen such fastport damage myself. I would expect it would involve undue care to cause such damage, not normal everyday use.
I would really like to spend a day with all you people that say that because the handsfree brakes is for being uncarefull. And for the love of god its no the fastport itself its the handsfree that brakes cause the fastport itself is a useless piece of crap unless your like some of these guys in here that probleby sit on their chair at a office space, unlike me and all the people i know that uses s.e phones and handsfree. There is no other place to put the mobile then in your pocket. Im not buying a new phone so I can put it in a pocket fasten to my belt cause then i could change my name to steve urkel!
I've been using SE phones for a long time and have had problems with their handsfree all the time. I have to buy a new one every 3-4 months and no its not because they are dirty cause as soon as i connect the new one everything works fine! |
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I have never had any problems with a 3.5mm jack connection. Its strong, small and reliable. I have many different kinds of problems with fastport. The contacts lose their spring, dust, the connection becomes loose over time. Then stupid decision such as making the connector big and put it on the side. I would always choose 3.5mm over fastport, eventually so will SE. |
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On 2008-04-02 21:35:50, PhR34k wrote:
On 2008-04-01 02:11:56, max_wedge wrote:
I'll take your word for it, but I've never seen such fastport damage myself. I would expect it would involve undue care to cause such damage, not normal everyday use.
I would really like to spend a day with all you people that say that because the handsfree brakes is for being uncarefull. And for the love of god its no the fastport itself its the handsfree that brakes cause the fastport itself is a useless piece of crap unless your like some of these guys in here that probleby sit on their chair at a office space, unlike me and all the people i know that uses s.e phones and handsfree. There is no other place to put the mobile then in your pocket. Im not buying a new phone so I can put it in a pocket fasten to my belt cause then i could change my name to steve urkel!
I've been using SE phones for a long time and have had problems with their handsfree all the time. I have to buy a new one every 3-4 months and no its not because they are dirty cause as soon as i connect the new one everything works fine!
Read my post mate. I have found the exact same thing occasionally as you say (but not every three months) - a handsfree that stops working on my phone, a new one works fine, BUT if I clean the fast port then the old one works fine also. I gave my reasoning as to why this might happen, maybe you are too impatient to read other people's posts.
Nevertheless, if you keep it clean then old handsfree's will work again. If you don't want to be bothered cleaning it then fine suit yourself. No matter what you say about yourself being a snotty nosed kid who doesn't have enough balls to wear his phone on his belt (btw I don't sit in an office all day) the fact is there are many satisfied fastport customers who don't have problems so try as I might I'm hard pressed to understand how you can have so many problems with headsets that you have to replace them every 3 months. If you want to carry your phone in your pocket that's your choice. I carry mine in my pocket sometimes too, and it's never been a problem for me.
Seriously I've never heard ANYONE with the same extent of problems as you, so I find it very hard to believe all the others are wrong and you alone are right.
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kenoby
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On 2008-04-02 21:35:50, PhR34k wrote:
On 2008-04-01 02:11:56, max_wedge wrote:
I'll take your word for it, but I've never seen such fastport damage myself. I would expect it would involve undue care to cause such damage, not normal everyday use.
I would really like to spend a day with all you people that say that because the handsfree brakes is for being uncarefull. And for the love of god its no the fastport itself its the handsfree that brakes cause the fastport itself is a useless piece of crap unless your like some of these guys in here that probleby sit on their chair at a office space, unlike me and all the people i know that uses s.e phones and handsfree. There is no other place to put the mobile then in your pocket. Im not buying a new phone so I can put it in a pocket fasten to my belt cause then i could change my name to steve urkel!
I've been using SE phones for a long time and have had problems with their handsfree all the time. I have to buy a new one every 3-4 months and no its not because they are dirty cause as soon as i connect the new one everything works fine!
Buy a Nokia. Since is for office ppl.. 
BTW. I work on industrial site and I do not have any problems whatsoever with fastport. But I do have with the hole of 3.5 mm. That is one of the main reasons why I do not have Nokia.
So, if you buy Nokia, you will not be frustrated with the phone and in return your life will be more joyfull.
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PhR34k
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On 2008-04-03 01:03:15, max_wedge wrote:
On 2008-04-02 21:35:50, PhR34k wrote:
On 2008-04-01 02:11:56, max_wedge wrote:
I'll take your word for it, but I've never seen such fastport damage myself. I would expect it would involve undue care to cause such damage, not normal everyday use.
I would really like to spend a day with all you people that say that because the handsfree brakes is for being uncarefull. And for the love of god its no the fastport itself its the handsfree that brakes cause the fastport itself is a useless piece of crap unless your like some of these guys in here that probleby sit on their chair at a office space, unlike me and all the people i know that uses s.e phones and handsfree. There is no other place to put the mobile then in your pocket. Im not buying a new phone so I can put it in a pocket fasten to my belt cause then i could change my name to steve urkel!
I've been using SE phones for a long time and have had problems with their handsfree all the time. I have to buy a new one every 3-4 months and no its not because they are dirty cause as soon as i connect the new one everything works fine!
Read my post mate. I have found the exact same thing occasionally as you say (but not every three months) - a handsfree that stops working on my phone, a new one works fine, BUT if I clean the fast port then the old one works fine also. I gave my reasoning as to why this might happen, maybe you are too impatient to read other people's posts.
Nevertheless, if you keep it clean then old handsfree's will work again. If you don't want to be bothered cleaning it then fine suit yourself. No matter what you say about yourself being a snotty nosed kid who doesn't have enough balls to wear his phone on his belt (btw I don't sit in an office all day) the fact is there are many satisfied fastport customers who don't have problems so try as I might I'm hard pressed to understand how you can have so many problems with headsets that you have to replace them every 3 months. If you want to carry your phone in your pocket that's your choice. I carry mine in my pocket sometimes too, and it's never been a problem for me.
Seriously I've never heard ANYONE with the same extent of problems as you, so I find it very hard to believe all the others are wrong and you alone are right.
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[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2008-04-03 03:49 ]
I read your post, and everyone elses too? Did you read mine? It has nothing todo with dust man, i have cleaned it. Its like the other guys say the springs on the connector dont stay firm for a long time. This is riddiculous, i know what I have expericed with the god damn handsfree and what all my friends have to and like 50% of the people in this thread. The fastport is shit, its not made long lasting and if you dont belive this take a bit of plastic and bend it back and forword over a 1000 times and check how it feels from the first time and to the last time. It will loosen up its not something i made up!
"kid"? I dont know where you come from but at earth its about style not age. Wearing a phone with a belt pocket its discusting!
I dont know why people keep defending the fastport its just stupid. Mini Usb
Its the best cant argue with that! Im not gonna read anymore at this thread cause all you guys do is reapet the same thing and its started to get annoying! Good luck with your fastport (we'll see how long it will last on SE phone)
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I read your post, and everyone elses too? Did you read mine? It has nothing todo with dust man, i have cleaned it. Its like the other guys say the springs on the connector dont stay firm for a long time. This is riddiculous, i know what I have expericed with the god damn handsfree and what all my friends have to and like 50% of the people in this thread.
I'm sorry to question your experience, but you are also questioning the experience of everyone who has no problems with fastport (50% going by your statistic). That can mean only one thing to me, some people treat the fastport in such a way that weakens it more than the other 50% like myself who don't have problems. I repeat again, I have had my HPM-70 for over two years, used everyday. I use it in my pocket or on my belt, mostly on my belt but about 1/5 of the time in my pocket I have a standard stereo headset, used for 6months. I have another headset I use in the car about two or three times a week, have used that one for 12 months. My brother in law, sister, and about 4 or 5 of my friends have used fastport with no problems.
The fastport is shit, its not made long lasting and if you dont belive this take a bit of plastic and bend it back and forword over a 1000 times and check how it feels from the first time and to the last time. It will loosen up its not something i made up!
then it's the amount of flexing while it's in your pocket, which if it were a 3.5mm headset or usb-mini would cause damage to the socket not the headset, so thankfully you have a fastport and your phone itself is not damaged.
"kid"? I dont know where you come from but at earth its about style not age. Wearing a phone with a belt pocket its discusting!
That's downright insulting to everyone who wears a phone on their belt, who are you to say it's disgusting? Maybe you don't like it personally but to say it's disgusting shows how immature you are (and why I thought you were a kid). It's a practical solution that would help keep your phone and connectors in better condition. If you are such a style guru that you can't live with that option then your choice is to damage connectors all the time. The safest place for a phone on a worksite is on your belt, it's simple.
I dont know why people keep defending the fastport its just stupid. Mini Usb
Its the best cant argue with that!
For those of us who have never had any fastport OR connectors break before, despite extensive use, then it's just common sense to defend fastport, especially if we have had usb-mini devices where the usb socket has clean broken off the pcb of the phone, rendering the phone completely unchargeable and therefore unusable.
Im not gonna read anymore at this thread cause all you guys do is reapet the same thing and its started to get annoying! Good luck with your fastport (we'll see how long it will last on SE phone)
[ This Message was edited by: PhR34k on 2008-04-05 17:20 ]
Sorry to keep questioning you, but it just seems strange that you have all these problems. I have given you my experience, including a solution which is to wear the phone in a belt pouch, which you use to insult my fashion sense, but you seem more intent on being angry about the fastport than actually finding a solution.
I suggest you sell your SE phone, and get a phone that 1. doesn't have it's connector on the side (bad move by SE and Nokia N95) and 2. doesn't use fastport. But as for me, since I don't have problems with fastport even though I use it daily, I will happily continue using fastport
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Although im a fan of FastPosrt I must say they are not too durable....my W300i Fast Port stopped working properly after using it extensively for only 3-4 months.
Wish the new onese are more durable...and hope my K850i's fast port doesnt stop working
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I guess some people have prpoblems others don't. Who knows why, all I know is I don't have any problems.
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my fast port,after 2 years of use is messed up.
the connector is very loose...its really hard to listen to music and i guess its because the the connector of the fast port accumulates dirt or something.i remember the guys at SE use to say to their customers "oh that just requires cleaning"
and out of desperation i took a safety pin and cleaned it up...and well it works now!;)
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