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jinx_misty
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Posted: 2008-02-28 03:18
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On 2008-02-28 01:27:00, esgie wrote:

On 2008-02-27 23:09:04, jinx_misty wrote:
I just debranded my Telstra K850 using KulanKendi client. The reason being is that it only cost 8 euro and you could flash 3 times within 24hrs (in case u make a mistake).
So at first I loaded a generic western europe R1DA038 and it worked fantastic. Then I read that the new R1EA031 firmware is out and so I thought I'd use SEUS to update it. Well this didn't work as SEUS said that my phone already had the latest version on it.
I then read on another forum that SEUS will update it only if it is R1DA037 - so using my second flash credit I downgraded to a generic western europe R1DA037. I then re-tried to use SEUS and it worked but then WTF!!!, IT SAYS TELSTRA R1DA038 is the next available update?!?!?! How the hell did it decide that the GENERIC western europe firmware should be replaced with the poxy TELSTRA firmware again?? I just paid 8euro to DE-brand it! I'm certainly not going to let it be RE-branded from SEUS.
So I used my last remaining credit to re-flash back to the generic western europe R1DA038 and have left it at that for the moment.
My conclusion - There is something in the hardware that allows SEUS to detect that it is a Telstra phone and will always try to restore the Telstra firmware.
Anyone else had this problem? Any other Telstra K850's able to update to R1EA031?

After debranding, you should also change your CDA (this costs also 1 of 3 credits - and Davinci makes it automatically). CDA is a 8 digit signature that tells SEUS which firmware (country and operator) to download. So if you changed your FW and kept the old CDA SEUS is still thinking that phone is branded.

Thankyou for your help. So where would I find the CDA codes - Is there a list of them somewhere?
fullforce
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Posted: 2008-02-28 03:39
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Well i re-flashed my phone at Da Vinci a couple hours ago to try to get rid of the random reboot isse. And guess what- i have just had my first random reboot!! Damn that was truly a waist of 10 euro's! So i now a draw the conclusion that the random reboot issue is really in the firmware and not due to some bad flashing. Oh crap...

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mark187
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Posted: 2008-02-28 04:08
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So i now a draw the conclusion that the random reboot issue is really in the firmware and not due to some bad flashing. Oh crap...

The fact that a ton of other users are experiencing the same thing should have told you that.
lun4r
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Posted: 2008-02-28 04:31
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wanna ask bout the "blue ring of death" thing...

1st of all, i feel sorry for those who had it and hopefully it can be recovered soon just like fullforce's...

just wanna know, does it happen on both branded and unbranded fones?
fullforce
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Posted: 2008-02-28 04:37
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@mark187

Well thank you!
But i have not got the impression that almost every one of those who had that problem, had also done a total flash on Da Vinci. Quite a few people, and myself included, had the "operation failed" issue. And i didn't got rid of it with the latest firmware update until i rolled back my firmware at Da vinci and then( now without the operation failed issue) i flashed the new fimware again with SEUS. So i wanted to try that again but this time i got a lesser result. I don't recall reading any posts saying that this has allready been done. And if there is such posts at all they must be wery few indeed and in this large and very active thread it's easy to miss a ceartain post! So don't blame a guy for trying to fix he's issues and then gets a bit dissapointed!



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[ This Message was edited by: fullforce on 2008-02-28 03:42 ]
lasher1011
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Posted: 2008-02-28 05:01
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The "blue ring of death" is not new. Here is my post from awhile back describing what happened to me. I don't say it in the post but I remember the blue ring lighting up on the back.


On 2008-01-16 08:12:33, lasher1011 wrote:
ok so i planned on waiting to update my phone until the major firmware release, but my phone had a different plan. I looked at my calender and noticed some of the dates were not there, so I think "Strange". I reset it and now it won't turn on properly. It loads up but midway through the sony icon swirly graphic it stops, then every 10 seconds or so it shows my regular background and says its searching for a provider. It only shows this screen for a second then the screen goes black, does this repeatedly for a few minutes.

SO i thought i would try SEUS, it said i could update to 037, i thought why not. Download it, it loads it to the phone, then when i take out the battery and reset, what do you know. No difference. Still same problems. Now when i connect it to SEUS it still says i can update. And it goes through the whole process again.

Any ideas? As it goes now, i can't use my phone at all.

I had 029 Hong Kong firmware i think before and now i might 037 not really sure.

I live in the USA so there are no sony service centers here to go and have them take a look.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Geoffrey


[ This Message was edited by: lasher1011 on 2008-02-28 04:04 ]


So this isn't just a problem with the new firmware.

I eventually just used Davinci to reflash my firmware to 037, since then i've upgraded to 031 and have had no real issues. My battery life is still 2 to 3 days, like it has always been. With 031 my media player is finally fast enough to be usefull (still wouldn't mind it if it was faster). Had one restart i think, i can't remember what is was doing, but it wasn't that big a deal. The camera seems about the same, the only problem i ever have with pics is flash burn, and thats only when the flash sensor gets clogged with stuff.


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plankgatan
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Posted: 2008-02-28 10:07
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with R1EA031 I/WE can only go "right" in the camera meny !!

before we could go both right & left...(its no problem, just wondering if anyone else has it ?? )
lun4r
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Posted: 2008-02-28 10:10
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On 2008-02-28 10:07:14, plankgatan wrote:
with R1EA031 I/WE can only go "right" in the camera meny !!


I/WE??
what is that?
plankgatan
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Posted: 2008-02-28 10:20
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it dosnt mather..... i just mean I (or we with 031)

so has anyone some answer ?????????????????

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ogrex
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Posted: 2008-02-28 10:35
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Just got a spontaneous reset with the new firmware. I had the phone in my pocket and suddenly I sensed a small vibration. Sure enough when I take it out it's rebooting. Haven't used the browser or any java app today, and the phone was freshly booted this morning, so it can't be because of any 'multitasking out of memory' thing.

Directly after the reboot I got a push mail (IMAPS), so it could have something to to with mail push. Spontaneous reboots is really a very bad thing and I really hope that SE are working on a more stable firmware.

maestronl
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Posted: 2008-02-28 10:56
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On 2008-02-27 21:17:26, Vlad83 wrote:
Why are all of you downgrading to 37 through davinci then updating through SEUS to 31? Davinci already has 31 so you can do a complete flash at once. Thats like wanting to reinstall Vista so you install xp then upgrade to vista through the upgrade disc.

BTW, I did just that and havent had a problem with reboots and I have the little arrows next to the name in the phone book, some were complaining that they disappeared.

[ This Message was edited by: Vlad83 on 2008-02-27 20:19 ]

Yes, DaVinci has 031 already, but not the version for my region (Benelux). The 037 is there in Benelux version and i wanted to be sure that i keep my own region (in case warranty is needed), so that was my reason to select 037 on DaVinci and after that updating to 031 with SEUS.
fullforce
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Posted: 2008-02-28 11:06
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On 2008-02-28 10:07:14, plankgatan wrote:
with R1EA031 I/WE can only go "right" in the camera meny !!

before we could go both right & left...(its no problem, just wondering if anyone else has it ?? )



Nähä du nu har du allt sett fel Nope i don't have that in my -31 firmware. Haven't heard of anybody else that have that issue either.
(Hörde att mobilakuten har börjat med SE-lurar igen. Nytt avtal med SE)
reggiele
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Posted: 2008-02-28 11:54
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indeed... the camera menu, I can only go right, not left...


On 2008-02-28 11:06:14, fullforce wrote:

On 2008-02-28 10:07:14, plankgatan wrote:
with R1EA031 I/WE can only go "right" in the camera meny !!

before we could go both right & left...(its no problem, just wondering if anyone else has it ?? )



Nähä du nu har du allt sett fel Nope i don't have that in my -31 firmware. Haven't heard of anybody else that have that issue either.
(Hörde att mobilakuten har börjat med SE-lurar igen. Nytt avtal med SE)
esgie
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Posted: 2008-02-28 11:55
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On 2008-02-28 03:18:02, jinx_misty wrote:

On 2008-02-28 01:27:00, esgie wrote:

On 2008-02-27 23:09:04, jinx_misty wrote:
I just debranded my Telstra K850 using KulanKendi client. The reason being is that it only cost 8 euro and you could flash 3 times within 24hrs (in case u make a mistake).
So at first I loaded a generic western europe R1DA038 and it worked fantastic. Then I read that the new R1EA031 firmware is out and so I thought I'd use SEUS to update it. Well this didn't work as SEUS said that my phone already had the latest version on it.
I then read on another forum that SEUS will update it only if it is R1DA037 - so using my second flash credit I downgraded to a generic western europe R1DA037. I then re-tried to use SEUS and it worked but then WTF!!!, IT SAYS TELSTRA R1DA038 is the next available update?!?!?! How the hell did it decide that the GENERIC western europe firmware should be replaced with the poxy TELSTRA firmware again?? I just paid 8euro to DE-brand it! I'm certainly not going to let it be RE-branded from SEUS.
So I used my last remaining credit to re-flash back to the generic western europe R1DA038 and have left it at that for the moment.
My conclusion - There is something in the hardware that allows SEUS to detect that it is a Telstra phone and will always try to restore the Telstra firmware.
Anyone else had this problem? Any other Telstra K850's able to update to R1EA031?

After debranding, you should also change your CDA (this costs also 1 of 3 credits - and Davinci makes it automatically). CDA is a 8 digit signature that tells SEUS which firmware (country and operator) to download. So if you changed your FW and kept the old CDA SEUS is still thinking that phone is branded.

Thankyou for your help. So where would I find the CDA codes - Is there a list of them somewhere?

I think your CDA should be 1201-9794. That's for CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE but I'm not 100% sure, please somebody confirm that. Good luck
jbbrs
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Posted: 2008-02-28 12:23
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Ok, so which CDA should I set my k850s to be able to update to 031 and still have PT and EN-UK unbranded?

Thanks!
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