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Sony Xperia Rumours 2018 |
Moe87 Joined: Oct 26, 2017 Posts: > 500 PM |
This phone is not ugly.. Back is not much different from Sony/Htc.
It is edge to edge like XA.
Cam and FPS where they should be... |
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pigletsquid Joined: Apr 10, 2018 Posts: 61 PM |
Well the bezels are quite big, back looks fine but the front does not - at least when compared to the likes of the Galaxy S9, iPhone X, Vivo NEX, Oppo Find X etc... Doubt many consumers would pick this out in a store over any of those phones (at least based on the design).
I can see them keeping headphone jack for non-flagships, after all, flagship buyers are more easily "persuaded" into buying expensive wireless earbuds :/
Also not sure it is worth buying HTCs mobile division as Google already got rights to all of their patents in previous deal (HTC still has the patents but Google can use them). I would assume this would still stand in the event of any sale. Also doesn't really bring anything to Sony... except maybe better camera software (HDR, autofocus), though XZ2 is a leap forward for Sony so not sure how much worth it would be. If it acquired the Vive business too it might be useful for Sony strategically (PS VR, Sony Movies/Entertainment), but I doubt that part would be up for sale. |
ascariss Joined: Apr 06, 2013 Posts: > 500 PM, WWW
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change in FCC ID
PY7-04606A is now PY7-61352P
Anyone know why Sony keeps changing their device IDs? |
AlvinZahranM Joined: Apr 06, 2015 Posts: > 500 From: The Big Durian PM |
^ to mislead us and protect their data even more tightly.
Daily Drivers: Galaxy S23 Ultra, Galaxy S22 Ultra, and iPhone 14 Pro Max Secondary: vivo X80 Pro Still using as a backup: Xperia XZ2 Still using (not as much): Galaxy Tab A 8.0 |
Moe87 Joined: Oct 26, 2017 Posts: > 500 PM |
Yes, they know we spy on the papers.. 😢
The paet that says size and screen did not use to be secret..
Now they hide from us.. 😒
On another day someone found full sized xz2p samples.
But there were just 4.
Anyone has found the rest of them?
I hope the 2019 Premium has dual selfie connected to Aube
[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-07-04 00:12 ] |
X350 Joined: Jun 22, 2017 Posts: 47 PM |
Why sony not use camera position layout fron SE era
I think there are some models look beautiful |
Moe87 Joined: Oct 26, 2017 Posts: > 500 PM |
XA2 Ultra: 75 pts photo, 74 pts video.
Bit basic review, I cant see the score of every item. Not sure if it is my internet.. |
AlvinZahranM Joined: Apr 06, 2015 Posts: > 500 From: The Big Durian PM |
For comparison, A8+ had a score of 78.
DxO's conclusions:
Stills
Pros
Good overall exposure in soft daylight
Pleasant color rendering with flash, including skin tones
Good edge preservation in outdoor conditions
Low noise levels in textured areas
Cons
Significant loss of detail across the frame
Variable color casts in a range of lighting
Limited dynamic range in high-contrast scenes
Ringing, flare, and cyan shift (in skies) often visible
Videos
Pros
Good exposure even in low light
Rapid, smooth transition in exposure when light changes
Pleasant color rendering
Good stabilization with walking movement
Cons
Poor detail levels in all light levels
Autofocus not responsive in low light
Autofocus tracking failures visible
Some motion visible in static scenes
More: Link
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I'm sorry, this is off-topic, but if only they can improve the camera algorithms of XA2 series, it could easily get a solid 85.
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I also did some math with eprice's data for 1H 2018's best camera, tested with a blind test and it turns out that XZ2 is the winner, based on the average percentage for each tests (or overall performance, if you prefer). Here's what I found, sorted from the best to the worst:
1. Xperia XZ2 - 16.74%
2. Zenfone 5Z - 16.33%
3. P20 Pro - 16.29%
4. Mi Mix 2S - 14.67%
5. G7 ThinQ - 12.44%
6. R15 Pro - 8.25%
7. Galaxy S9+ - 7.81%
8. U12+ - 7.47%
Yeah, very surprising. The ePrice Link
[ This Message was edited by: AlvinZahranM on 2018-07-04 17:33 ] Daily Drivers: Galaxy S23 Ultra, Galaxy S22 Ultra, and iPhone 14 Pro Max Secondary: vivo X80 Pro Still using as a backup: Xperia XZ2 Still using (not as much): Galaxy Tab A 8.0 |
Moe87 Joined: Oct 26, 2017 Posts: > 500 PM |
XZP could not get 85, XA2U would never ...
Sadly!!!
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badassmam Joined: Nov 07, 2007 Posts: > 500 PM |
Well DXO admitted that they give preference to companies that pay them so I'd say forget about them. The truth is that finally the XZ2 is up to the reviewer standards and this is the concensus among the big websites. Tick the box. Dual camera coming. Tick the box. Smaller bezels. Tick the box. Performance. Tick the box. What's missing? Fanboys won't save Xperia.
I honestly think the XZ3 should be 5", XZ3 Ultra at 6" and the Premium anything with the 4K and maybe massive internal storage. The 5" have all the best materials but maybe differentiate on internal storage. It's a slight readjustment to open up their market a bit, going head to head with the likes of the S9 isn't working.
You could go the HTC route and try and go up against the big hitters or try something like Moto who own the other lower ends. The XZ2 Compact is very niche, it is unique, it should be the main focus because they have a chance there as there are no android competitors in that space. Give the thing really nice materials and design and it will be a saviour for them. A compact with dual camera at IFA would be a showstopper no matter how fat.
I'm hearing a lot about folding phones recently, looks like the next big innovation. Apparently Microsoft are looking at ultra portable Surface devices so perhaps modular or folding tablets but not necessarily a phone. I think we will definitely see near finished prototypes this year.
Also, check this:
https://www.phonearena.com/ne[....]these-stunning-colors_id106325
Nice ideas and colours, Sony should steal that fire color.
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Moe87 Joined: Oct 26, 2017 Posts: > 500 PM |
There are rumors of XZ3 purple, just like Z, Z1, Z2 and Z3.
Maybe the Y design with curved back would look good.
Also shorter phones with 16:9.
Nokia 8 Sirocco has 14cm tall, like XA2.
Its screen is 5.5 16:9.
Iphone SE could never outperform sales of the 4.7 and Plus variants.
Iphone 6 is still sold out there, southern Asia.
Ppl are running from small phones.
I bet Z3c was the only one to sell as good as bigger brother.
[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-07-04 19:44 ] |
Killmonger Joined: Apr 30, 2018 Posts: 42 PM |
Sony should add the Playstation blue to the line up. |
vivftp Joined: Mar 10, 2012 Posts: > 500 PM |
Well the Playstation 5 will be out anytime within the next 2 years. If there is going to be any cross promotion or tech/feature sharing between Sony Mobile and Playstation we might see it then. I mean we already have remote play on Xperias, so that's a great start. I hope they try to build on that relationship. |
Moe87 Joined: Oct 26, 2017 Posts: > 500 PM |
https://photographylife.com/reviews/sony-xperia-xz2/2
Very complete camera review... Much more info than tech sites |
ascariss Joined: Apr 06, 2013 Posts: > 500 PM, WWW
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Can people please move the XZ2 discussion to the XZ2 thread
>>> https://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=208719&start=135
This is RUMOURS thread |
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