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McKinley
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On 2004-03-28 23:51:35, Berserk-KW wrote:
Dear forum readers and viewers, this my first post, because i have fallen in love with the K700.. but alas, i live in Kuwait.. i don't know if this will be taken as part of this discussion or not, but I am wondering does anybody have any idea as to when the K700 will be released anywhere in the Middle east?
and thank you to anybody that replys to this 
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K700 should be on the market at the same time in Dubai | |
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chungagoring
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On 2004-03-28 18:58:47, tommo21 wrote:
Release on K700i in Europe is set in june by SE;
"'It will go out almost simultaneously in all European countries in June 2004. Price? Around 400€''
This was written on a leaflet I got at an electronics-show in Norway!
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On 2004-03-28 19:07:03, gforce23 wrote:
Plaigiarism!! This statement has been copied from clubsonyericsson.com
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ex-ce-llent 
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swipe108
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From the rumored specs, I would say that a t650 would be a really great phone. I mean a cross between a K700 and a S700 would be really great. But let’s face it, a T650 wouldn’t be good for  ‘s business. I would kill the K700 and possibly the S700 as well.
Why would a T650 kill a K700?
1. 1.3 MP vs. VGA
2. MS Duo vs. built-in 32 MB
Why would a T650 kill a S700? (Keeping in mind that both have 1.3MP, MS Duo and the same interface)
1. T650 is smaller
2. Readily available keypad (no hassle of rotating the keypad)
3. more affordable than S700
S700’s advantage over T650 would only be the QVGA screen and most people would be able to overlook that part based on T650’s advantages.
I don’t think would like to s***w themselves that way.
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SCORPIONKING1982
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thats balls, all it does is give people more choice which is good
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gforce23
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Does anyone have a clue whether mp3 playback is mono or stereo?
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swipe108
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On 2004-03-29 07:23:43, SCORPIONKING1982 wrote:
thats balls, all it does is give people more choice which is good
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Then let's keep our fingers crossed and hope that the guys over at have big brass cojones. And I'm also going to hope that the put a QVGA screen on the T650. Man, that would be really something. |
JasonDeFaoite
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Why would a T650 kill a K700?
1. 1.3 MP vs. VGA
2. MS Duo vs. built-in 32 MB
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Cost in my view is a BIG reason why it doesn't compete with the K700. For the 1.3MP cam, and MS Duo, the phone will be 1. Larger due to the MS Duo support and 2. a lot more expensive!
If Eldar is correct, the T650 will launch in Sept, so the K700 will be on the market nearly 3 months, and as such the price will have dropped. I can see USD200 at least difference between the phones.
Having more models on the market hasn't done too much damage to Nokia's selling, and I for one am all in favour of more from SE.
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On 2004-03-29 07:53:41, gforce23 wrote:
Does anyone have a clue whether mp3 playback is mono or stereo?
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According to the white paper the phone supports both Stereo and Mono MP3, and comes with a Stereo headset. So I would take that as a yes.
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adnhk1
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Damn it, I really hate to say this, but the K700, apart from a much better looking phone, is no match for the stupid NK 6230 (this phone looks ugly to me). I had always loved Ericsson/Sony Ericsson due to their technological advantages when compared to NK, but this time round, seems like if the T650 is never really gonna materialised, SE will loose a lot of their K700 sales to the 6230, simply because the 6230 has almost all the features of the S700, only apart from a lower end VGA Camera as compared to S700's 1.3 mega pixel. I really hoped SE sales guys and engineers are here in esato to see this post, and make the T650 a reality and kick some NK ass.
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JasonDeFaoite
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Kind of curious, what features does the N6230 have in your view that kills the K700. The only one I can think of is the mmc card. Everything else in the K700 is on par or superior to the nokia, and will surely sell at a cheaper price too.
To me the add in card isn't so important. It IS important for mp3/aac playback, but I use an iPod for that. Unless the phone gives me 15GBs, I ain't changing over
Screen on the nokia is too small for my preference, but each to his own.
Anyways have a look here....
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=53030
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adnhk1
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Thanks for the link. Actually, I only came to know about 6230's features yesterday, cos I always dislike NK's design and was always never interested in knowing their features cos SE is always 1 or 2 steps ahead of them. The point is, no matter how bad the NK looks, it's a brand that all mobile phone users will know, and it is so easy for sales guys to sell this phone to the mass market just by telling them, "Look, it's got MMC card holder and this mean you can put in 256MB of MMC card and use it to replace your MP3 player". Voila, people will definitely buy it  Just look at 6600's sales number everywhere, and even though it's only in plain stupid mono sound, people still buy it cos the selling point is there, 256MB MMC card |
TheRealSpawn
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#adnhk1
Id have to disagree
the Nokia 6230 specs are lower (or equal) than the K700 in every aspect except for expandable memory. It has a poor small 128x128 screen compared to the beautifull screen of the K700, it has 24 polys that sound terrible compared to the 40 polys of the K700, it only has a VGA cam just like the K700, it only has 6 mb onboard memory (but memoryslot) and only allow videorecording of max 2mb (even with a memorycard installed) where K700 allow unlimited recording, it does not support themes like K700. It has a lousy interface and design compared to the K700.
Besides the expandable memory (which there are no real use for) it offers nothing over the K700 and are no competitor at all in my mind.
I allready know 3 people with nokia 6230 and have had time to play with it in real life - and beleive me its really not that special. I wouldent even trade one for my T610.
Moving to the S700 only makes the comparison even more grose.
Screensize alone is reason enough for me to not want the 6230
and memoryslot is of no use - Its only good for mp3 playing which is completely idiotic in a phone. Battery runs dry in 3 hours max and memorycards are expensive. Any 50-100$ dedicated mp3 player with 128mb flashram will do better. MP3 playback in a phone is not ment as substitute for mp3player - but is for mp3 ringtones - and as long as the phones onboard memory is sufficient - theres no need for expandable memory.
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gforce23
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But the mmc in the 6230 is the main factor. Also, the 6600 can use 512mb mmc cards.
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adnhk1
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@TheRealSpawn,
I agree with you fully that the K700 is a much nicer designed phone with bigger screen than the 6230. Take a look here about what NK had to say about the 6230:
"Shared Memory
The following features in this phone may share memory: phonebook, text & multimedia messages, images, video clips & ringing tones in Gallery menu, WAP bookmarks, calendar, to-do-notes, JavaTM games and applications. Using any such features may reduce the memory available for any features sharing memory. This is especially true with heavy use of any of the features (although some of the features may have a certain amount of memory specially allotted to them in addition to the amount of memory shared with other features). For example, saving many text & multimedia messages, images, ringing tones, JavaTM games and applications may take all of the shared memory and your phone may display a message that the memory is full."
I bet your 3 friends who bought this phone doesn't know this when they put in their hard earned cash for the 6230 right? The same will happen everywhere, in every country around the world. My point is, 6230 is a NK, and everyone knows about NK, and the mass market always thinks NK is the best, and would blindly buy the 6230 w/o really knowing it's weaknesses like we do, and salesmen will never warn them too. Thus what SE should do, is to make the T650 a reality asap, or at least make the S700 out in Jun - Sep, and sell it at an agressive price, so that salesmen are at a better position to sell it over the 6230, by telling them, "look, if you wanna get the 6230, why not consider the K(S)700/T650 instead? It's got everything that the 6230 has, and MORE..." Really, else the 6230 will definitely sell like hotcakes everywhere, just like 6600, and I hate it when seeing so many people carrying a NK...
Cheers
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mmsman
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about the mp3 thing..... i think it's idiotic that some people trash mp3s on phones because it's on a nokia and not in a se sheesh yu always have a mobile phone with you and i guess you are not going to listen to 15gb of music while waiting for the dentist or on a bus stop?!?
but the point is you always have it with you! sure you can buy a muvo or something like that but in my experience when i had the hpm 10, i rarely took it with because i just forgot or i said to myself: nah i'm not going to use it anyway.....
so mp3s on the phone are actually quite usefull, i think that they ae better than games......
and about the 3h battery life, sheesh  i really don't think anybody listens to music on 10 dollar crap earbuns for more than 3h, maybe on some high quality akg or koss earphones but f*ck not on a mobile phone.....
i think that the mmc slot is HUGE advantage of 6230, but then again i would choose a k700.....
why because people have different needs, some play games some don't some listen to music some don't!
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TheRealSpawn
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I didnt say mp3's on mobilephones are idiotic - or what I ment was - that buying a mobilephone because you want to use it mainly as an mp3 player instead of a descent mp3player is idiotic. Im not talking about playing a few songs now and then - this you can also do on a K700 with the memory onboard. All of the debates Ive had with people about the Nokia 6230 and the memoryslot has been about them getting the Nokia as a replacement for an mp3 player. This is the ONLY thing most people want the memoryslot for. And the ONLY thing most people seem to find extremly important - that it can be used as mp3 player. Most of them plan hughe memorycards and hours and hours of mp3playing - and this is plain foolish. Its a phone primarily - this is the reason one should buy it. Otherwise one should get an Ipod.
Most of them look astonished when I tell them that they should not expect 6 hours of constant mp3playing - and still be able to use the phone a couple of days without recharging. But I will not get into this argument once more - if you beleive a mobilephone to be a good replacement for a dedicated mp3 player - so be it 
I'll just get me a phone - that can play a few mp3 and use mp3 as nice ringtones - everyone else may get their "marvelous mp3 player" - I dont give a s**t
I wouldent mind a memoryslot on the K700 - but I dont consider the Nokia 6230 to have a HUGHE advantage because it does have one - because theres nothing really interesting to use the memoryslot for on a Nokia 6230. No reason to store videoclips, who wants to watch video on such a crappy screen, no reason to store applications, its not a smartphone, no reason for hundreds of mbs extra space for pictures, its only a vga cam - and again the screen doesnt invite viewing pictures, no reason to store themes cause it doesnt support it, no reason to store 500 mp3's because battery sets a natural restrain on playback time.
The memory of the K700 is plenty for the things supported by the handset
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