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BobaFett
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are on cdma also 160 characters to be able send as by gsm?
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wapt
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Not sure. I have not many experiences with the cdma phones.
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BobaFett
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@wapt will be kept in china the cdma next to the gsm aswell?
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bacanito
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hey boba, sorry, just strayed from the topic for a while lol
But CDMA does not mean no SMS...its like I had mentionned, there are different types of coverage with CDMA...there's analog, digital, 1x...Analog doesn't support much besides phone calls, but with digital and 1x it does...analog was the very first form of CDMA coverage and it's network capabilities were very limited. Besides the types of features that can be used, one of the main reasons analog will be completely gone in the next few years is that the amount of people who could use the network simultaneously is very limited.
I don't have in depth technical details as I never cared much about this type of technology, as I've mentionned before...although, I might still have my training manuals from the operator I used to work for...I'd have to look that up 
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westmini
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just my 2 cents, i think the reason that the cell phone network is slower to develop here in canada (and america) is that we were built on the fact that we laregely rely on using land based phones, where as places like europe, asia, etc..used cell phones as a necessity because they didnt have the phone line structure like we have here. |
lightning_storm
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@bobafett
When I had a CDMA phone 3 years ago, I was able to send only 120 characters on a SMS. That changed when I bought a GSM phone 2 years ago. |
BobaFett
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So in the cdma system are only 120 characters even now a days?
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lightning_storm
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Maybe it depends on the carrier (the number of characters), but I don't know if that happens nowadays. |
BobaFett
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Thx!
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wapt
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@Boba, Just met some old friends working for the cdma operator here. Checked with their phones. The capacity of an sms is 160 for the system, the same as gsm.
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bacanito
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I confirm what wapt says...sms are 160 characters long 
GSM STILL rules 
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scotsboyuk
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On 2004-06-23 23:24:37, westmini wrote:
just my 2 cents, i think the reason that the cell phone network is slower to develop here in canada (and america) is that we were built on the fact that we laregely rely on using land based phones, where as places like europe, asia, etc..used cell phones as a necessity because they didnt have the phone line structure like we have here.
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Your post seems to imply that Europe and Asia had inferior landline infrastructures when compared to North America; in this regard I must disagree with you. Whilst it is true that many countries in Europe and Asia did, and still do, have poor landline infrastructures, many countries also had equal or in some cases, even better landline networks than either Canada or the U.S. Japan for example has had a very advanced telecommunications network for some years now.
The problem experienced in Europe and Asia was that the price of using landlines was, on the whole, more expensive than in North America. When mobile phones became available, especially the Pay As You Go deals, consumers saw a cheap way of bringing their home phone bills down. North America, by contrast, has been slower to adopt mobile phones because they pay so little for landlines calls, in addition to other reasons.
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bacanito
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@ scotsboyuk
In addition to what you said, which I agree with, keep in mind that here in Canada, you don't pay a rate/minute on landlines. We pay a flat rate for the line and you can talk 24hrs/day if you want to, without paying a cent more. Also, it doesnt matter wether you're calling another landline or a mobile (calls from landlines to mobiles were more expensive in Switzerland, I don't know about the rest of Europe). For this, a mobile phone has never really been a necessity on this side of the puddle
Also check out this thread if you haven't already, about a service eliminating the need for a landline...
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=61871
Besides that, there's also the undeniable fact that North America has a much larger surface to cover and some regions have very little population so coverage in bigger cities is what most operators need to focus on, @ the cost of areas where one antenna would cover like 10 people who don't necessarily have/want a mobile yet! So that I think is also an important factor...
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scotsboyuk
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@bacanito
I agree with your comments and I have posted similar comments on Esato before. One must realise that the U.S. has less than three hundred million people, even with the population of Canada added to this figure it is still considerably less than the four hundred and fifty million, or so, people in the EU, and the almost eight hundred million people in Europe as a whole; it is less again than the even more massive Asian population. Of course numbers without a context mean little, so we must remember that the populations of Europe and Asia tend to be a lot more spread out than in North America, where there can be huge areas with comparatively few people, making expanding a mobile network to such areas very uneconomical.
Having said that, North America is starting to gain some ground in terms of mobile technology, but it will requite massive, and sustained, investment for the American markets to catch up with either Europe or Asia.
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bacanito
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true, we're starting to get there, but they're gonna have to inject millions if not billions into network expansion and advancement...I don't think we'll ever be @ par with the european situation in that sense...to my great disapointment!
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