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Is it possible for you new P900 owners to extract the Communicorder from the P900 firmware? |
Denk
Joined: Jun 13, 2003
Posts: 26
From: California
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C:/System/Install this directory is for application uninstall utility. if oyu want to check it on your p800 go to that directory and delete any *.sis file from it, then go to application list and go to Uninstall programs, and you will see that the program which corresponds to that sis file is not on the list anymore.
The installation of buildin programs such as communicorder should be in A or Z ROM drive, i cant remember the directory, but when i will find it i'll tell you. I know this because i was looking at each folder in ROM drives on P800 and there are installation files af all applications which "come with the phone".
Check it out yourself.
Ok here it is
Z:\System\Install
You will find all the build in applications installation files in this folder
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fijbert
Joined: Dec 26, 2002
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From: Montreal / Beirut
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I wld help ya out
but I still dun hv my P900 in hand
hv no way of getting it into the country 
quick question to see if there will be any hardware mess ups between the conversion
if a P900 user cld install Sweet's P800 SweetCam on their P900
if it doesnt work (due to hardware) then we know it is uselss to continue
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Benz-Driver
Joined: Feb 19, 2003
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Unfortunately I don't know anybody who has a P900. Despite this where I live (Austria) there isn't even a dummy of the P900 available! Therefore I can't help although I would like to do! 
Please you lucky P900 owners, read the instruction of "sweet heart" and help him making a really big thing! Please send him the files he need! |
blue8300
Joined: Sep 01, 2003
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On 2003-10-29 17:45:08, Benz-Driver wrote:
That's because UIQ 2.0 and UIQ 2.1 are fully compatible. |
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I know that th UIQ 2.1 is fully compatible with the older version, but i never heard about the compability of the UIQ 2.0 with the new one...
Backward compability is a classic, but forward surelly not, look at programs...
How do you know it is forward compatible????? |
Benz-Driver
Joined: Feb 19, 2003
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@blue
I didn't say it's forward compatible. Don't know - maybe it is. But it's downward compatible and that's the most important thing. That means that UIQ2.1 appz will run on the P800. Therefore the Communicorder will run, too. |
blue8300
Joined: Sep 01, 2003
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How can you be sure of that??? I never heard about that compability....
You can run software from the P800 on the p900 (sometines with problems!! sound, grafic,... are some not perfect or completly wrong!!!), but i never heard (logic in fact) about software who is made for the P900 that run on a P800....
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Benz-Driver
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@blue
Ask Michal Jertz from www.my-symbian.com! |
blue8300
Joined: Sep 01, 2003
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How can he know? loll
There is not ONE application that is made only for the P900, all we have know are software from the P800 who are compatible with the P900...
And that is not even all of them... a lot of software (games for example) gives allready a lot of problems. |
Benz-Driver
Joined: Feb 19, 2003
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Ok, let's wait until someone has tried the Communicorder on his P800. Then we'll see... |
zol
Joined: Sep 27, 2002
Posts: 291
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Guys... There is a little problem here.
The CommuniCorder program resides on the Z: drive of the P900. Such programs are compiled differently for XIP (execution in place, i. e. in ROM, not RAM). So the CommuniCorder will not be possible to run from the C: drive of the P800, due to XIP binary incompatibility (nothing to do with UIQ versions or hardware differences).
Test for yourself. Copy Calc.app (and the other Calculator files) from the Z: drive of the P800 to the C: drive of the same machine, then try to run Calc.app. No way. And hats off to the hacker who will overcome a different compilation...
The CamCorder was a completely different (easy) case, just a matter of installation.
Only SE could solve the problem by including CommuniCorder in a new P800 firmware upgrade. |
Benz-Driver
Joined: Feb 19, 2003
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@zol
We know that, but sweet heart ist trying to make a *.sis-file out of it!  |
zol
Joined: Sep 27, 2002
Posts: 291
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:-) Yes, a .sis installation file is easy to make from any files, including incompatible ones - I'm talking about what happens when you try to execute the contents after installation. |
blue8300
Joined: Sep 01, 2003
Posts: 471
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@zol
You think just like me... it's a part of the firmware and will have to stay has a part of the firmware.
Making a runable software (.sis with the new API incorporated) of it will change nothing, it will have to be integrated in the firmware, and only SE can do that.
@benz
Making a .sis is not that difficult, you just need de SDK that is free to download on the SE site. But like zol said, i think it will have to be integrated in the firmware....
We also will have to see if the video API of the P900 is compatible with the P800
In fact, talking about it is stupid, we will have to wait...
Just the same useless discussion as in the time with the MS Duo Pro. Everybody has is idea and could prove it was (wasn't) possible to use it on a P800... seems finally that even the P900 can't support it ! lolll
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petrutms
Joined: Nov 17, 2002
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From: Cluj Napoca, Romania
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I'm sure that sweetheart can make a valid .sis file,it's a matter of time,i hope that someone will send the files he need!
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zol
Joined: Sep 27, 2002
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Yes, the .sis file will be absolutely valid. Unfortunately, it will install the CommuniCorder on the C: or D: drive. However, CommuniCorder.app is from the Z: drive, and can only run from the that only drive, because it was compiled (=generated) for that place. This you can test immediately, by executing any Z: drive-originated .app file from the C: or D: drive.
A .sis file can not install its contents to the Z: drive - that's called a firmware flash. |
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