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N.M.E.
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Posts: 124
From: Western Australia
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I did that already didn't I?
You are making out like someone has a gun to your head with respect to developing mophun games. I'm sure you don't do it for a job. Wouldn't that make it a free-time activity or a hobby? You want to get paid for a hobby? Come on man. Are you really that poor that you need to scrape for pennies by making small, not overly detailed games?
Regardless of how you look at things. People are going to pirate games, and others are going to pay for them. Warez these days makes almost any PC game available for download, but they still sell like hotcakes. I really don't think you will change anything and please stop whinging about how hardly done by you are. If it's that hard, don't do it.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing - Edmund Burke |
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macki_c
Joined: Jul 09, 2003
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I really dont think any mophun developer does it solely for the money, that would be stupid, use warez pc games if you want too because most of the pc development teams are paid for what they do regardless of sales unlike most of the mophun developers who i think do it mainly cos they see a game and want to play it on their mobile and they should be rewarded for that if they release it into the public, just because they are cheap doesnt mean it should be free, I am just trying to discourage people from getting it for free cos that doesnt help anyone take mobile games forward, and many people wouldent warez games if there was nobody downloading them to continue the illegal chain. |
N.M.E.
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Posts: 124
From: Western Australia
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So what you're telling me now is that people should be getting paid for developing on concepts designed by other people? If I wanted to play Bubble Bobble on my phone, I should port it and get paid for it? Isn't there a copyright issue on this? Even if I called it 'Magic Bubble Fun Adventure', it's still someone elses idea. If the game is original, fair enough. So it's illegal to download games, but not illegal to steal concepts? Interesting.
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macki_c
Joined: Jul 09, 2003
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Thats a really lame argument games have been copied since pong
developers only develop games for the market and if consumers want certain types of older game on their mobile which coincide with earlier game formats thats ok as long as they dont infringe copyright
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N.M.E.
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Posts: 124
From: Western Australia
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Games have also been pirated since pong....
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macki_c
Joined: Jul 09, 2003
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and......
maybe we would have a more intelectual gaming society if people didnt think games were free on mobiles there would be more respect for the game developers
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N.M.E.
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Posts: 124
From: Western Australia
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So the fact that software has been pirated since the year dot doesn't mean it's going to be any different now.
I think the only reason this bothers you is because you claim to be a developer and have a chance to make money. Are you trying to tell me that you have paid for every piece of software on your computer? Nothing illegitimate at all?
Now with mophun being an open development type environment, it allows any Joe Bloggs who can use a compiler to develop mobile device software. Are we expected to pay for amatuer quality software?
It's not about people having respect for developers. I really don't think people care who developed a game. Sure I know that Blizzard made WarCraft III, but I have no idea who made Honey Cave 2. Nor do I care. People can have all the respect in the world for a developer, but they are still going to prefer a free alternative.
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macki_c
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Yes i have paid for every piece of propriety software i have ever owned.
No you dont have to buy every piece of mophun software that is produced, only the ones you cant live without after playing the demos
you crazy austrailian you..
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N.M.E.
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Posts: 124
From: Western Australia
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Why should you have to pay for any??
You don't see people charging money for community developed software that runs on Linux do you? Some of the best apps ever written are open source. Have a look at sourceforge.
If you are so worried about your software being 'pirated', don't release it. If you are worried about losing out on a couple of dollars, take up a weekend job.
Erk...I've been discovered! I knew I shouldn't have put my location in :P
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macki_c
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Why should you have to pay for any??
- Because of the time and effort to produce a game
You don't see people charging money for community developed software that runs on Linux do you? Some of the best apps ever written are open source. Have a look at sourceforge. -
I know but how many games are developed for sourceforge its mainly a "project portal" apps arent games
Im worried about good games becoming too expensive for the normal user because of people sharing them and not making it a viable business model
Open Source doesnt mean free.
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djburno2000
Joined: Jul 05, 2003
Posts: 66
From: Saigon
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@WildNomad:
I'm gonna check again mophungames website...
Before, I wasn't able to... I'm sure of that. You had to select the location you are and I was not in the list. Website was saying "download to the phone only"
If they changed to this way you explained, then, well, I'm glad of it!
By the way, is it indiscreet to ask you what programs did you delevoped?
Good Luck!
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macki_c
Joined: Jul 09, 2003
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is that a moment of silence in respect N.M.E?
Sorry but it really narks me when software is given away illegally, its just as viable as hardware at least[ This Message was edited by: macki_c on 2003-08-05 04:13 ]
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N.M.E.
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Posts: 124
From: Western Australia
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Moment in silence from me?? Sorry. I am at work at the moment :P
Good games are expensive. That is why we paid $90AU for a new copy of Diabo 2 when it originally.
I don't believe that piracy changes the pricing of games. People will still pay for them. To my mind, a good game is rated by the amount of devices it is running on...not the money made from it. I would continue to produce games just with the knowledge that people are playing them. If I worked for a gaming company, you're right, I'd get paid either way, so it wouldn't matter.
I don't think anti-piracy is a cause worth fighting for. It's all just a matter of personal opinion...I'm sure for every 1 person you convince to pay for software, another 10 have discovered channels of free software.
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macki_c
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Every one person i convince to pay for the software is another pound or so to a legitimate developer, thats why i like mophun |
N.M.E.
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Posts: 124
From: Western Australia
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But people who are Software Developers get paid by their companies anyway remember?
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing - Edmund Burke |
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