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SE C905 Rivals = K-Touch C700? Now with previews and C700 vs N95 8gb sample photos in the first post |
Guto_ViP
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Pictures link doesnt work.
Love or hate me...  Nokia 5120 -> Nokia 6120 -> SE T200 -> Motorola V800 -> SE W800 (stay with my wife) - > SE K800 (stay with my mom) -> Nokia N82 Silver -> Nokia N82 Black Edition - Firmware v30.0.019 -> What is the next??. |
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Dextrr
Joined: Dec 16, 2006
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I love the design and the telescopic zoom is so cool. Does it really have a touchscreen? I wanna buy this phone! When is it out? |
Hiron
Joined: Aug 16, 2007
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From: Denpasar - Bali, Indonesia
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My bad. I'm sorry. Seems cookies problems that makes RingHK.com forbidden image access.
I will fix it as soon as possible. While waiting, I suggest you to visit http://www.ringhk.com/news2.php?id=1441
I get all the pictures from there. . .
Just wait until the page has been fully loaded with pics. And you can click some thumbnails to view some full-res photos!!!
Then just visit back this thread. http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=172239
Voila! The pic will show! I use firefox 3.0, and the cache images exploit would show the pictures!
I'm sorry again. Just stupid newbie mistakes . . .
Hiron
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2008-07-09 17:07 ] |
staffanp
Joined: Aug 10, 2006
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I'm currently in China (Shanghai to be precise) and the c800/c280 is definitely out and is sold for about 2000RMB (180 Euro) here.
I was thinking about picking one up but the problem with this phone is that there are two memory cards and the phone cannot access the one the camera uses
official website: http://www.benephon.com/ProductInfo.aspx?q=424
I would stay away 
edit:
The c700 has 7M, ISO 800 and is slightly cheaper.
[ This Message was edited by: staffanp on 2008-07-09 17:20 ] |
se_dude
Joined: Nov 07, 2007
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A phone with lens sticking out.how uncool can you get. |
Hiron
Joined: Aug 16, 2007
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@se_dude,
You're right, the lens sticking out when camera is active.
But while inactive, the motor will makes the lens sunk to the body of the phone, just like another camera phone
Like this:  |
shyam335
Joined: May 25, 2004
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My impressions are
Less/poor post processing
Poor optics
Cam UI looks ok
It seems there are problems with exposure/white balance selection.
but i dont really blame them since they are a small company and its cheap. |
gola
Joined: Jul 17, 2007
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From: South Africa
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On 2008-07-09 18:21:54, Hiron wrote:
@se_dude,
You're right, the lens sticking out when camera is active.
But while inactive, the motor will makes the lens sunk to the body of the phone, just like another camera phone
Like this:
Now how cool is that
"Getting wisdom is the wisest thing you can do!"
Proverbs 4: 7 |
Hiron
Joined: Aug 16, 2007
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@shyam335,
The picture seems blurry, but quite low noise.
I think that's all because cam driver that is not optimized (still premature in this stage). I see a little Noise-Reduction, and Yes, wrong light balance on some pics (all settings are auto white-balance).
" but i dont really blame them since they are a small company and its cheap, " shyam335 said.
Exactly. I just make a comparison between "small company and this cheap product" to SonyEricsson under Sony Japan CyberShot Technology.
Since K750i and K800i, SonyEricsson seems not showing their effort to makes a better Camera Module. They also insisting using CMOS instead of CCD.
They even decided to use Samsung CamModule in C905, instead of continuing the development of their own Sony Sensors. . .
The Camera-UI of C905 also doesn't makes huge difference with K850's UI.
Apart of SmartContrast, Geotagging and 8MP, I didn't see any difference. . .
QVGA recording???
In my prototype, ISO settings even removed, and I don't see Smile Shutters mode. But I thought they may add this feature later on final release, because it's stated in the WhitePaper. . .
Do you know some funny facts?
K800i use IMX-018 Sony Cam Module, sensitivity 106 mV
K850i use IMX-020 Sony Cam Module, sensitivity 57 mV
They reducing the cell size of IMX-020 to 2.0 micrometer, instead of 2.5 micrometer in IMX-018. . .
By reducing cell size, they could squeeze more megapixels to same-sized sensors, and leads to sensitivity reduceness due to less light that reach the sensors.
That's why we see a hell more noise and pixel errors on K850i, although the details increased a bit. . .
For some comparison, Sony Handycam CCD sensors have sensitivity about 800 mV. . .
And I'm quite happy now because they use a bigger sensor on C905. Seems SE learns a LITTLE (not MUCH) from K850i's mistakes
And one more mistakes from K850i. . . They use low quality lens cover in K850i. If you removed glass that protects the lens, the purple fringing and chromatic aberration reduced a lot.
Chromatic aberration and purple fringing usually because of low quality optics (in this case, a glass lens cover that protects the main lens.)
Just try removing that glass cover, especially a people that experienced a dust under lens cover. The auto-shutter already covered the main lens, so it is useless to have some stupid additional lens cover. Just look at K800i
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2008-07-09 19:19 ] |
Mad_Wedgie
Joined: Jul 09, 2006
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SE's able to make a better mobile-phone, they re-create their models for money. Everything's about marketing  |
CruSifiXken
Joined: Jul 06, 2005
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I think SE if going down slowly.... |
sin_nombre
Joined: Sep 02, 2007
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On 2008-07-09 20:42:48, Mad_Wedgie wrote:
SE's able to make a better mobile-phone, they re-create their models for money. Everything's about marketing
can do, but it does not
the design of K-touch is bad, is a camera with a keyboard 
Puede hacerlo, pero no lo hace
el diseņo del K-touch es malo, es una camara fotografica con un teclado |
Guto_ViP
Joined: Sep 24, 2007
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Any news about C800 and C700 pictures quality??
Love or hate me... Nokia 5120 -> Nokia 6120 -> SE T200 -> Motorola V800 -> SE W800 (stay with my wife) - > SE K800 (stay with my mom) -> Nokia N82 Silver -> Nokia N82 Black Edition - Firmware v30.0.019 -> What is the next??. |
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Posted: 2008-07-09 17:44
