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plankgatan
Joined: May 20, 2007
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From: Sweden fur alle
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if i rate all my  phones as:
¤ robust//stable(software)
¤ design
¤ features//power
i rate them like this.
¤ Robust//stable(software): w810 & k800............. (w810 have also beatiful design)
¤ features//power & design: K850 & K810
second place comes K750 (which have a good camera but not good allround). world first cell phone with a good camera & features.
third place comes k700 & T610 & T630....(t630 was nice phone. really robust, but crappy camera)
so i think Sonyericsson have done a really good job ever since T610/T630 !
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I K850,  W810 &  T29
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(t610, t630, k700, k750, k800, k810)
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mr_lou
Joined: Nov 14, 2002
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From: Denmark
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Right now I'm so close ordering the N95 8gb. The only reason for sticking with SE at this moment is because I know their UI... but they've changed navigation so much in the K850, that it'll be new navigation anyway regardless of it's a K850 or N95.
Good photos and video recording has a high priority, and the N95 wins in all tests.
I used to think the N95 was too big though, and avoiding Symbian and touchscreen (and Nokia for that matter) also has a high priority, but good photos and video is also very important. and I'd rather use Symbian than WinCE.
I have never liked Nokia because their phones always had so many errors, and I hate companies pissing on consumers just because they can. It's so strange to see that the tables seem to have switched. I don't hear many complaints about the N95, but I see tons of people complaining about SE devices and poor service. Stuff I can agree with because I experienced it myself.
There's just a lot of work in switching brands. I wonder if the N95 will receive all contacts from an SE phone in one transfer, just like it's possible from an SE phone to an SE phone. I also hope I can find replacements for applications like MyPhoneExplorer / Float's Mobile Agent etc.
Maybe the girlfriend will switch back to Nokia as well while we're at it. Her K800 just died 15 minutes ago for no reason. She had her simcard in my W950 to try it, and after reinserting the simcard back into the K800 it won't turn on. We're on a roll here it seems.
Yes, SE is fine for mid-end users. I recently recommended a K660 to a coworker because it suit his needs. I've just had higher expectations with Sony Ericsson ever since the T68i, but looking at the last few years it's clear that SE's goal is to do mid-end phones only. Spit 'em out and make money. Attempts in doing high-end phones fail miserable time after time, and then they shut off firmware updates way too soon, Logically they'll leave the high-end market soon because they must be loosing a lot of money on it.
Maybe the switching to WinCE (Xperia) is an attempt of improvement in the high-end devices (maybe they thought the drop in sales is because of Symbian?), but from what I've heard that's not going well either.
I'm having difficulties believing that SE is too stupid to do it right. The reason for this disaster HAS to be elsewhere. But whatever the reason is, I'm sure it's going to cost more than they expected, and I wouldn't be surprised to see LG take 3rd place and puts SE in 4th in the future.
Meanwhile.... choosing between K850 and N95 has proven to be much more difficult for me than I thought. I will research the N95 now and see if I can find something astonishing that'll turn me over in seconds. Perhabs something like"Oh, the UI is almost exactly like SE's UI!" + "OMG this is the fastest freakin' Symbian device in the whole world!!" will do. |
Wuz
Joined: Nov 01, 2002
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mr lou - I found myself in a very similar position to you, and by and large share your views. I have been visiting Esato for years. However, whilst originally it was because of SE phones exclusively, as time has gone on, I have become more and more interested in other manufacturer's offerings. These days, I have to say, my interest is much more likley to be in someone's elses latest device, rather than SE.
Anyway, 2 weeks ago I bought......my first Nokia ... the n95 8gb.
I have to say, its fantastic, flawless and the best phone I have ever owned (although the day I got my t68i was just as exciting!).
These days, in my opinion, brand loyalty and mobile phones just don't go hand in hand. |
mr_lou
Joined: Nov 14, 2002
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From: Denmark
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Well... after having watched several YouTube videoes, heard opinions and read reviews, I have ordered the Nokia N82 now.
What kind of replacements can I use for stuff like MyPhoneExplorer, WotanClient etc?
Any other Nokia Symbian beginner links will be appreciated.
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shanespencer
Joined: Aug 29, 2005
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From: The China
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Nokia's PC Suite does back ups of the phone, although regarding a Nokia version of Myphoneexplorer, I don't know, as I never used MPE when I had an SE phone.
As for a Nokia alternative for Wotan, you can use Nemesis Service Suite (NSS) - google it. It allows you to change your product code. After that, you can update your phone using Nokia Software Updater.
Oh, you should definitely check out www.allaboutsymbian.com - it's a very useful site, full of Nokia info!
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Wuz
Joined: Nov 01, 2002
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I'd second the comments with regard allaboutsymbian.com - this site is really the start and end of everything you will ever need &/or need to know. |
justin25
Joined: Mar 29, 2007
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From: Hong Kong
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I'm one of them who keep on using W800i... and W810i also (cause need EDGE)... nice UI with good quality photoshoting function. After W900i I can't find other new model which could have big advancement and stable UI.
First  : K750i, now keep on using  W800i & W810i | J230i as 2nd phone | Z300i for Mum | K610i for GF But won't buy anymore as no amazing phone after W900i (Except Japan SE phone) C905?  |
yanyanyan881
Joined: Jul 16, 2007
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Hi Mr_lou,
Its always good to WAIT until a phone that fits ALL of your criteria comes out OR go for other brands (N82?) Otherwise you will regret. Your criteria is not that demanding, but SE seems to not have a phone that suit your needs. Use your $ wisely, just wait.
I have only one SE phone-k810i red(good phone) and will never buy another SE again becoz their newer phones are always lacking of something.
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PowerLee
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
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On 2008-06-04 17:59:03, LuXo wrote:
You are not alone 
I have a W800 too and man, its the best phone ive ever had. Ive been looking for a phone to replace it for 5 months now (my w800 shutdowns at random, takes pictures but saves them at random... ) and finally ill get a G900... but i dont think ill be as happy as i was when i got my w800
I just love SE but they are losing their touch... midend phones and bad cameras... 2 years and a half and W800 and K750 still being the Cybershot flagship (in 2megas cameras)...
I think someday Nokia will get better with battery lifes, user interface/design and sound (N82 camera is a WOW) and ill have no reason to stay with SE.
Im a K750I owner, I too am still waiting for SE to build a true successor to the K750I & W800 range, with every new ( so called ) Cyber Shot model launched it just brings disappointment.
Lad at work has the K850I, looks a nice phone with some good features when its working correctly & it even takes a decent picture sometimes which is a bit of a disapointment for a 5meg camera phone, but he is on his 4th replacement handset now.
One of the replacements he had lasted less then 24 hours before giving up the will to live.
I very much doubt my next phone after the K750I die's will be a SE |
Phone1
Joined: Jun 08, 2008
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Hello,
I am in the same boat.
I have a Sony Ericsson w810i buy I do not want to buy any other barnd because I don't like them.
I like how this phone works, what I use is the calling, texting, camera and mp3 player.
I was going to buy the w890i but the buttons don't light up.
Hence, what can I buy?
The phones are really expensive but I can do with around £200.
The G900 looks good, where can I buy it in the UK?
Thanks. |
cool_hand
Joined: May 03, 2008
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On 2008-06-04 17:28:59, mr_lou wrote:
W890 then? Looks like a nice walkman phone, but SE still doesn't put auto-focus in their walkman phones. Bummer.
Have you actually seen how thin the W890 is?
They (SONY) couldn't put an auto-focus lens in it if they wanted to – because at this moment in time it is physically impossible.
But of course you didn't bother to do some research before making your opinion.
It's a great little phone – and the picture quality is good – but if I really want to take (quality) photos I use a camera – not a phone.
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nettl
Joined: Oct 17, 2006
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On 2008-06-10 01:00:49, cool_hand wrote:
On 2008-06-04 17:28:59, mr_lou wrote:
W890 then? Looks like a nice walkman phone, but SE still doesn't put auto-focus in their walkman phones. Bummer.
Have you actually seen how thin the W890 is?
They (SONY) couldn't put an auto-focus lens in it if they wanted to – because at this moment in time it is physically impossible.
But of course you didn't bother to do some research before making your opinion.
It's a great little phone – and the picture quality is good – but if I really want to take (quality) photos I use a camera – not a phone.
Oh please - first of all, this wasn't specifically about about the W890. Secondly, take a look at the C902. Thirdly, take a look at all those knife thin Samsungs with AF cams (the U800 is just as thin as the W890, but actually has a 3.2MPx AF cam, for example.
Really, I wonder *who* should be doing research before opening his big mouth here. Physically not possible  |
soane28
Joined: Jun 12, 2006
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From: NZ
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On 2008-06-07 12:42:46, mr_lou wrote:
Well... after having watched several YouTube videoes, heard opinions and read reviews, I have ordered the Nokia N82 now.
What kind of replacements can I use for stuff like MyPhoneExplorer, WotanClient etc?
Any other Nokia Symbian beginner links will be appreciated.
Thanks
Very good choice. Im sure you will be happy with it. |
apotts
Joined: Aug 27, 2003
Posts: 117
From: UK
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Add me to the list too.
My T610 was perfect, and still works.
S700 - several replacements, and the last one which I have boots only to a white screen.
K750 - several replacements, and the last one which I have has a non-functioning keyboard and will not boot at all.
K850 - 3rd handset died yet again and I'm back to using my emergency Samsung. I totally give up now, it's not worth the effort sending them back just to have a refurbished replacement that lasts a couple of weeks. I also find it boring having to go everywhere with my emergency Samsung, just in case the SE dies again.
Why on earth would I go back to a brand that consistently produces unstable and unreliable rubbish? The only reason I have persisted is because I like the UI, but what use is the UI when the phone is in the bin?
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cool_hand
Joined: May 03, 2008
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Oh please - first of all, this wasn't specifically about about the W890. Secondly, take a look at the C902. Thirdly, take a look at all those knife thin Samsungs with AF cams (the U800 is just as thin as the W890, but actually has a 3.2MPx AF cam, for example.
Really, I wonder *who* should be doing research before opening his big mouth here. Physically not possible
That will be the U800 that you can't buy and can't find any specific official specifications for as it's not been released yet? Closest thing available is SAMSUNGS flagship U900 which does has AF but measures 12.9 mm deep – the SONY W890i is 10mm deep. The C902 is 11mm deep and does have AF – but does not take good photos IMO. I did my research. LOL. | |
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Posted: 2008-06-06 15:58
: K750i, now keep on using 
W800i & W810i | J230i as 2nd phone | Z300i for Mum | K610i for GF
