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makbil
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On 2008-04-04 16:23:50, 2manydjs wrote:
...But now I'm tired of SE releasing very few firmware updates and fixing none of my annoyances with the phone.
Actually, this is something I've been thinking about writing for some time now.
Especially for the P990 users, have you calculated how much time you guys have actually lost while updating fw, reinstalling sw & restoring data?
As of Oct. 2007, my P990 downtime was about 10% (including time spent at SE service center). This is an unreasonably high number. In contrast, I updated my P900 only once, back than the update was done using a web browser, and I updated not because I needed to fix problems but simply because there was a new fw available and I wanted to see the process. What I'm getting at is that too frequent updates are not actually desirable on business phones. The best business phone is the one that has 100% uptime. Taking into consideration that the PCSuite couldn't even perform the backup/restore properly (I believe it still has problems with 3rd party applications), spending half a day after each fw update just to install applications and get back personal data is a very good reason why the non-geek professionals will not consider UIQ3 for their use.
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace  So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD |
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2manydjs
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On 2008-04-04 16:44:25, ares wrote:
it doesn't have a decent webbrowser
so...opera mini is not even decent for you???  its what i use, not opera mobile...and now even more, with version 4.1
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it's not a native application, which i find quite annoying in day to day use.
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makbil
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@2manydjs, you are aware that Opera mini should not be used for sensitive transactions, right?
For normal operations it's OK but given that other devices now support flash, SE is dismally lagging behind in features.
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Nitro Fan
Joined: Jun 11, 2003
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My W960 will no longer charge when plugged into my PC USB connection all settings checked as working! anyone else having this problem?
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot. |
AD
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
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@ Nitro
Similar thing being dicussed here:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=168132
Seems the answer is to fiddle with it - a lot. |
makbil
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The only setting is in the USB connection screen.
BTW, SE support does not recommend USB charging, apparently it's not as effective as charging from the mains.
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD |
AD
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No, it will only trickle charge via usb due to the lower current delivery - I've found if you try to use the phone whilst charging this way, the net result is virtually nil in terms of battery charging. |
Nitro Fan
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@AD
Thanks
@Makbil
I am not sure I agree, if it was not advisable to charge via USB even the fools at  would not give you the option to do it! I do appreciate it is not as fast as a charger, but this was working fine up to a few days ago.
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot. |
5nak3
Joined: Oct 22, 2007
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@ Nitro
Just thought i'd point out that the link that AD posted, is for a p1 and the problem is the fact mains charging will not work, but USB will...
In any case both issues are similar, will look to see if i can find a solution and i'll post to let you know.
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AD
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Forgive me if this is a silly question, but could it be the usb port you're trying to charge from? I'd try another just to be sure - preferably on different place on your pc, as this would be on a different usb root hub. |
makbil
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@Nitro Fan, it's not actually a matter of being "not advisable", just that USB charging is not as efficient as charging from the mains.
When my previous P990 malfunctioned (battery drain of 10% / hour), the SE support guy told me to use the mains and not USB as it was not considered efficient enough - not that it mattered  They replaced my P990 eventually...
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD |
johnrey84
Joined: Nov 21, 2006
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i just did an update with my w960... it was not completed now the phone does not boot... tried to update again and phone cannot be detected by SEUS.. can somebody please suggest on what i can do? thanks
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Miss UK
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On 2008-04-09 02:56:32, johnrey84 wrote:
i just did an update with my w960... it was not completed now the phone does not boot... tried to update again and phone cannot be detected by SEUS.. can somebody please suggest on what i can do? thanks
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max_wedge
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On 2008-04-07 19:00:37, makbil wrote:
@2manydjs, you are aware that Opera mini should not be used for sensitive transactions, right?
For normal operations it's OK but given that other devices now support flash, SE is dismally lagging behind in features.
Opera Mini supports secure pages (https) since version 3.
http://www.operamini.com/features/security/
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makbil
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Q. Is there any end-to-end security between my handset and — for example — paypal.com or my bank?
A. No. If you need full end-to-end encryption, you should use a full Web browser such as Opera Mobile.
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Posted: 2008-04-04 19:54
So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
