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goldenface
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Posted: 2007-12-12 09:32
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OK.

Lets not count any phones made in Japan, they're obviously not Sony Ericsson. They're only made by Sony anyway and we all know how much we hate Sony phones. right?

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Posted: 2007-12-12 10:17
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The question should be, Will we see GPS standard in all phones? as I don't quite see any phone manufactures who have GPS standard yet - far from it in fact.

Like I said before, when it becomes cheap enough and uses power efficiently then thats when I think it will become standard, plus right now I don't think there is that much of a demand for it to become standard in every phone in a company's portfolio.

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Posted: 2007-12-13 01:54
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I am pretty sure the market is headed towards enabling and integrating GPS into phones. I may be wrong but doesn't the Nokia N95 and E90 have built in GPS? Or do they use something else for mapping? Also phones like the new ETEN models, HTC TytnII, Mio A701, 702 all have GPS included with an actual GPS chip and not just using cell towers to average your location.

For those who don't see the need for a GPS in your phone, you're just you. And feel happy to stand on that alone, without the need to convince others that its not necessary. I love having everything I need on one device without the need to carry several separate gadgets. Remember the days when we used to have a PDA in one pocket, a cell phone in another, and an Ipod/CD player in another. Thank goodness those days are gone. With the P1i, the only additional gadget I have right now is the Royaltek BT GPS receiver that came with it, and eventually I would love to see that gone.

And what's with the constant talk of battery life. Rest assured that at some point, technology will get to the place that this battery life doesn't become an issue. MIT is already working on wireless and buil-in chargers based on the concept of resonance, (something I should have patented the day I thought of it like 2 years ago.)

So!! These issues that we're currently squabbling about won't be 'issues' very soon. And this quote by jplacson is soooo true!!!

"SE has had no real significant technology contribution... it was always Ericsson that did all the research and tech breakthroughs... not Sony, Sony know how to repackage existing tech and give it a fancy name... but that's it. "

(very true, consider how similar m600, p1 and the w960. Essentially the very same device, with just a couple added features in each model.)

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Posted: 2007-12-13 17:56
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if i want a gps, i buy a real one....works ten times better.


Yet, you have both Cybershot (if I want a digital camera, I'll buy a real one....works ten times better) and (if I want a digital music player, I'll buy a real one....works ten times better) phones

It will be a very long time before multifunction phones can exceed the performance of dedicated devices. The idea is to trade performance for convenience. For most, I'm sure in-phone GPS is "good enough," especially when combined with an application like Google Maps.

As for battery life concerns, it should be an easy thing to de/activate GPS, much like .
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Posted: 2007-12-14 11:22
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On 2007-12-09 23:22:11, el_rycko wrote:
Personaly i don't see the need for internal gps, you can buy a bluetooth module for cheap and it's easier to locate it on the dash of the car, so it can receive sats, than the cellphone unit itself. Also, it works with your laptop, pda and cellphone.

And for the patent for positioning indoor, well... if you're lost in a building you have serious problems, seek help


Remember the time when we didn't see the need for mobile phones and that they were just luxury items? Or when we thought we just needed a phone for communication rather than for music or imaging? Mobile phones with multimedia and imaging capabilities are standard and a necessity today. Those who think navigation won't be a standard in mobiles are in denial just because SE is not producing any at this point. Whether SE likes it or not, onboard navigation is just another phase in the mobile technology evolution which they have to embrace just as other manufacturers had to embrace the music and imaging revolution conceived by Ericsson/SE
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Posted: 2007-12-14 17:49
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On 2007-12-12 08:44:04, arunvc wrote:
I really dunno how to answer it,But i dont undestand why Se hasnt managed to release a single phone with Gps when even samller manufacturers are able to do.

Nokia
Motorola
Samsung
HTC
Hp
Asus
Eten
Blackberry
Benq-Siemens
imate
Gigabyte
Toshiba
Nec

Almost all manufacturers have released ib gps i dunno why Se miserbaly failed with it.
Well wht i can say is just wait for the firmware oops sorry just wait for 2009 when we could probably hope to see it.SE is always LATE to the party


Z750 has internal GPS (it's not for the Japanese market either) - perhaps a google session would have been prudent before accusing SE of not having a GPS phone



On 2007-12-14 11:22:35, mode wrote:
Those who think navigation won't be a standard in mobiles are in denial just because SE is not producing any at this point.


mode, I agree with your point about navigation becoming standard in the same way mp3 players and cameras have. But see my reply to arunvc above - SE do have GPS phone

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Posted: 2007-12-15 05:20
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@max_wedge
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Z750 catered for the US market only?
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