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abubakar
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Posted: 2007-12-07 09:34
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With se leading the way in standardizing bluetooth in thier phones way before the rest, i'm surprised that its taking so long for them to release a gps phone.
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Posted: 2007-12-07 09:39
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I think power consumption and cost would have something to do with it. SE is careful about including features in a device that would compromise battery life or increase cost.

I see it becoming standard eventually.

chuksy
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Posted: 2007-12-07 09:51
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No shying away from it, gps phones particularly the high end phones is the way to go for SE if they must compete with the rest. I am very sure we shall see more, come 2008.
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Posted: 2007-12-07 10:13
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GPS on SE phones? yes!
But becoming a standard in a SE phone? I don't think so.
Just like chuksy said, it will only available on High-end phones.
But who need GPS if you can use
Google virtual GPS


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plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-12-07 10:34
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I DONT WANT SOME POWER EATING GPS IN MY CELL PHONE...why ???? it use way to much power,(it drain the battery much faster...you need a BIG battery to get good talktime)..

its crappy against a real gps..(sure, it seems that N82 a-gps is quite fast, but you cant still use it inside big buildings, and it have bad battery time)

remember,one of major features have allways been good battery time..

if i want a gps, i buy a real one....works ten times better.

ps..you have gps-puck if you need gps to example k850...they work good i think.

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Posted: 2007-12-07 11:00
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On 2007-12-07 10:34:29, plankgatan wrote:
I DONT WANT SOME POWER EATING GPS IN MY CELL PHONE...why ???? it use way to much power,(it drain the battery much faster...you need a BIG battery to get good talktime)..

its crappy against a real gps..(sure, it seems that N82 a-gps is quite fast, but you cant still use it inside big buildings, and it have bad battery time)

remember,one of major features have allways been good battery time..

if i want a gps, i buy a real one....works ten times better.

[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-12-07 09:43 ]


I'm not agree with you here...

If you just activate the gps when u need it, whats the problem with the battery ???

How many times do u need to use a gps inside buildings ??

"if i want a gps, i buy a real one....works ten times better. "
Thats just to say: -If I want a digital camera, I buy a SLR ...works ten times better...

Of course, if u buy one unit for every purpose you will end up with the top of tle line gadgets, the mobile do not do a perfect job at anything when speaking of diferent features, it is just OK at many things !

A gps in the phone is a great feature !!!

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Posted: 2007-12-07 11:10
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GPS chips will become smaller, more efficient and cheaper to produce over time, just as more mobile devices are appearing with larger screens.

I can only see them becoming more commonplace.
ofiaich
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Posted: 2007-12-07 12:14
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Hi!!

This here shows a very small GPS chip.



And here shows some other uses for the GPS enabled phone !

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SCORPIONKING1982
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Posted: 2007-12-07 12:14
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Soon i hope. after getting lost in cardiff at 3am after the joe calzaghe fight i can see the need to have something like the N82 style gps on my phone.
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Posted: 2007-12-07 12:22
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Hi SCORPIONKING1982!

There is software for the TyTn II that does this kind of thing. There is a thread over at XDA-Developers and the homepage is here

Looks good!

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plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-12-07 12:57
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this high tech super small chips cost very much to buy.....they are to expensive to use in ordinary cell phones.

have you guys never thought about why example k850 "only" cost 400 euro when it first came..(think its quite cheap for a brand new model, who have so great features)....

sure can build you a phone with platina chassi, super advanced GPS, wlan, hsdpa 7.2 MB/sec, 7 M.P camera with 3 x optical zoom, CCD sensor, 3" screen...........but it will cost you 1000 euro (minimum)

just look at N95 when it first came.....700 euro (cheapest web price)...eeehhh..how many ordinary people have afford that....

its all about money ladies & gentlemans...............

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Posted: 2007-12-07 13:02
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^^ this is not an Excuse and Cloud you just STOP praising your K850!!!!

by the Way Z750 has a built-in GPS chip

plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-12-07 13:09
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for god sake...im not prasing my k850..(even if it sound like that now)


(i mean many models), just look at w910....cheap very good phone (except for the camera..but still very ok)..big good screen, super thin, fast, ..etc

if you should build in this super advanced small GPS chip, it will cost A LOT MORE..................how many ordinary people would buy w910 then ?????..(not as many as now i believe)


ps....z750 have not this gps chip..it have a new RSS function who download pages in a new way..(maybe that what you mean ????



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goldenface
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Posted: 2007-12-07 13:15
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@plankgatan

Without doubt gps chips, like most chips, will become cheaper over time so as along as they manage power efficiently then there is no reason why they shouldn't become standard eventually.

The chips you see in our phones today were expensive when they first appeared. Remember that the T610 had 2mb of memory and a slow processor but that was over £250 when launched.
Fredricx
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Posted: 2007-12-07 13:15
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Anyway the question from the start here was why SE still dont have a device with the gps feature.
Sure it will add som more money to its pricetag, but so does a good camera, good screen, great design. If people want the feature they sure will pay the extra money.


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