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Tervel
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Posted: 2008-02-22 03:04
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How do you know that you're not receiving HSDPA? I'm just curious if you have done any speedtests to see what speeds you get with the 3G+GPS option.
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Posted: 2008-02-22 03:34
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PEOPLE, even when you set 3G+GSM, you DO enjoy HSDPA speeds IF your network has upgraded from 3G to HSDPA...and all this even if you DO NOT get the H icon on your screen. That's why I said that the HSDPA setting (before it gets lost after a reset) appeared to be meaningless. I get download speeds of about 120KB/sec with Wind-Greece which is definitely HSDPA and not 3G.

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Posted: 2008-02-22 03:46
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any other noticeable bugs on this new FW...?

i got the feeling that it solves some of our well known bugs, but rises new bugs on its turf....sigh...
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Posted: 2008-02-22 03:49
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On 2008-02-22 03:34:26, haki wrote:
.... That's why I said that the HSDPA setting (before it gets lost after a reset) appeared to be meaningless....
[ This Message was edited by: haki on 2008-02-22 02:34 ]

Well, i don't totally agree with that
On my network handovers between GSM and 3G don't go smooth always. So i could use the function to lock the phone to 3G. Ah, whatever... GSM/3G is anyway under a shortcut.

I have to admit that the names on the menu are very confusing. I'd expected

GSM Only (only enabling GSM radio)
GSM/3G (enabling both radio's, so you can access GSM, UMTS and HSDPA)
3G only (enabling UMTS radio only, so you can access UMTS and HSPDA)

Why they named it HSDPA is a clue to me, maybe they needed a visual conformation that the phone supports HSDPA indeed

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Posted: 2008-02-22 03:53
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please someone tell me whether the photos are good as in k800 or no change at all...???



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todicamer
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Posted: 2008-02-22 03:57
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On 2008-02-22 03:49:09, maestronl wrote:

On 2008-02-22 03:34:26, haki wrote:
.... That's why I said that the HSDPA setting (before it gets lost after a reset) appeared to be meaningless....
[ This Message was edited by: haki on 2008-02-22 02:34 ]

Well, i don't totally agree with that
On my network handovers between GSM and 3G don't go smooth always. So i could use the function to lock the phone to 3G. Ah, whatever... GSM/3G is anyway under a shortcut.

I have to admit that the names on the menu are very confusing. I'd expected

GSM Only (only enabling GSM radio)
GSM/3G (enabling both radio's, so you can access GSM, UMTS and HSDPA)
3G only (enabling UMTS radio only, so you can access UMTS and HSPDA)

Why they named it HSDPA is a clue to me, maybe they needed a visual conformation that the phone supports HSDPA indeed

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[ This Message was edited by: maestronl on 2008-02-22 02:53 ]

I'm in Bolivia so only have EDGE (2.5G).
If the only problem is this HSDPA(I really don't know what it is) i will upgrade to the new firmware.
BTW here I pay 1$us/megabit downloaded, the cost is really insane so i only use the internet for dictionary and TrackID. Can you tell me how much cost the 3g in Europe or USA?

[ This Message was edited by: todicamer on 2008-02-22 02:58 ]
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Posted: 2008-02-22 03:59
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On 2008-02-22 03:53:58, naveensiva wrote:
can anyone put up the perfermonance of java .???

those benchmark test ??

anyone ??

it will we nice to see wtherher there is noticable improvement in performance..


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Posted: 2008-02-22 04:06
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Any news for China_SO?
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Posted: 2008-02-22 04:11
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yeeh sorry .. i just missed it ..

can anyone say how the camera is now ???

sharp / smooth / like k800 ..better than it ??

or worse...
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maestronl
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Posted: 2008-02-22 04:21
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On 2008-02-22 03:57:58, todicamer wrote:

I'm in Bolivia so only have EDGE (2.5G).
If the only problem is this HSDPA(I really don't know what it is) i will upgrade to the new firmware.
BTW here I pay 1$us/megabit downloaded, the cost is really insane so i only use the internet for dictionary and TrackID. Can you tell me how much cost the 3g in Europe or USA?


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Well, i don't know if your familiar with UMTS in Bolivia, but you can compare HSDPA for UMTS where EDGE for GPRS: It is a enhancement for UMTS networks, where downloadspeeds rises from 384Kbit (UMTS) to 14.4Mbit (HSDPA). Most European networks support 1.8 or 3.6Mbit at the moment, some are already at 7.2mbit.

I pay in The Netherlands 19,50 euro (that's about 28 dollars at current rate) for unlimited data at a speed of 384/32. I think this is average for Western Europe, there are better plans. Without a plan you pay 0,50 - 2 euro per MB, so even more expensive.


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[ This Message was edited by: maestronl on 2008-02-22 03:24 ]

[ This Message was edited by: maestronl on 2008-02-22 03:26 ]
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Posted: 2008-02-22 04:29
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well, i still canīt update to new firmware from spain: unbranded blue, R1CA037 WESTERN-EUROPE...
I donīt understand...
rambalu80
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Posted: 2008-02-22 04:37
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I can't either. I have an unbranded blue with R1CA037 and APAC-ANZ customization.

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Posted: 2008-02-22 05:16
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i have a 037 China version, is it possible to update to Hong Kong version if the new firmware is out??
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Posted: 2008-02-22 05:33
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So, i guess unbranded phones are left behind again...
we are left behind by two fimware updates now...
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Posted: 2008-02-22 05:41
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what the hell? you mean no generic k850i has been able to update to the new software yet???

ive sent my phone to SE for repair so i hope it comes back with a new firware.
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