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hymie, WTF???? p1 processor cannot support 5 megapixel cameras!! you want better proof than that??? you call that speculation??? its on the freakin P1/P990 processor specs!!! cannot support more than 4mp
plus, ITS NOT THE SAME PROCESSOR on the whitepaper...
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I agree famous12. In this day and age, where every Nokia S60 phone has QuadBand GSM/EDGE, SE should feel ashamed to put out the G700/G900 with no EDGE or 850. |
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if anyone does not remember the specs of the nexperia philips PNX4008 chip used on the P1/P990, they were mentioned here:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=113468&start=15
again...no more than 4mp cameras supported, 30fps video recording only for CIF (not QVGA like the G900)
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CIF is 352×288
qvga 320*240
you mean qcif?
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On 2008-02-14 18:26:49, ares wrote:
if anyone does not remember the specs of the nexperia philips PNX4008 chip used on the P1/P990, they were mentioned here:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=113468&start=15
again...no more than 4mp cameras supported, 30fps video recording only for CIF (not QVGA like the G900)
i think what he meant was QCIF which is 176 x 144 in resolution.
Ares is right.
Razec also mentions that p1/p990 can and will not support capturing photos more than 4mp in resolution 
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I agree with my fellow American posters. No quad-band GSM with EDGE for UIQ devices is pretty pathetic. If the Pnext is released without quadband GSM with EDGE and tri-band HSDPA, I'll be very disappointed.
It's bad enough we in the states have to purchase hi-end SE phones through ebay or 3rd party retailer. We'd at least want the phone to support our networks. It is the largest market in the world, wouldn't proper business sense make you want to cater to it in order to be successful?
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i dont kno much,but still g900 should have got 330mhz processor!!...208 is too less for a device being release in q2 or later of 2008. |
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On 2008-02-14 20:43:47, djin wrote:
i dont kno much,but still g900 should have got 330mhz processor!!...208 is too less for a device being release in q2 or later of 2008.
it doesn't have that 208mHz processor.
otherwise g900 wouldn't have 5mp cam
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On 2008-02-14 20:25:21, moogoo wrote:
I agree with my fellow American posters. No quad-band GSM with EDGE for UIQ devices is pretty pathetic. If the Pnext is released without quadband GSM with EDGE and tri-band HSDPA, I'll be very disappointed.
I agree.
However, with the precedent set by the X1 with both quadband EDGE and HSUPA, I'd be very surprised if the P5, which is supposed to be a complement phone, doesn't also have support for these frequencies.
I'd also be surprised if BeiBei, with the call and end keys, also doesn't have at least quadband EDGE.
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Can anyone give me an idea why se keep rehashing the not-so-good,old uiq platform than introduce something newer.
Hardware is old (speaking in terms of mobile industry),so is software. |
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On 2008-02-14 21:08:40, crossmatched wrote:
On 2008-02-14 20:43:47, djin wrote:
i dont kno much,but still g900 should have got 330mhz processor!!...208 is too less for a device being release in q2 or later of 2008.
it doesn't have that 208mHz processor.
otherwise g900 wouldn't have 5mp cam
Or pehaps G900 uses a dedicated GPU for the video encoding by which i have a string feeling that it is the ATi imageon 2300. since it's the only GPU besides PowerVR that can support Symbian system. Nvidias on the other hand don't support Symbian devices
@ares: i came to believe G900's CPU is even capable of VGA 15fps video besides QVGA 30Fps
and yes Ares is right no more than 4mp images are capable within the Nexperia Chip so forget about it
want some more proof? here:
http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/literature/9397/75015411.pdf
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Cut it guys. The G900 runs the same old Philips NXP4008 CPU as all other SE UIQ3 phones until further evidence proofs otherwise.
And the cam or WIFI b+g can not proof that a different chip is used, as the NXP4008 can be equipped with different subsystems to enable WIFI b+g connectivity and the likes.
See only this quote from Philips:
"The first product available in the new family is the Nexperia Cellular System Solution 9100. It combines the processing power of Philips' PNX4008 application processor engine - for sophisticated video, imaging, audio and 3D gaming functions - with the Nexperia Cellular System Solution 6120 telecom and BGB204 Bluetooth subsystems. Further connectivity and broadcast subsystems, such as Wi-Fi 802.11b/g/h, DVB T/H, NFC and GPS modules, can easily be added. "
http://www.nxp.com/news/content/file_1135.html
Also see this explanation of the chipset: http://www.my-symbian.com/uiq[....]wquestion.php?fldAuto=10&faq=1
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On 2008-02-15 04:42:24, shyam335 wrote:
Can anyone give me an idea why se keep rehashing the not-so-good,old uiq platform than introduce something newer.
Hardware is old (speaking in terms of mobile industry),so is software.
Because the majority of customers are not esato members. They don't read white papers to find out about processor chips and will not refrain from buying a phone because of "old" hardware.
It's a business and introducing new hardware is not always a goal in itself. Making money and keeping the stock holders happy is. The company will most often release products where balance between cost of development and sales benefit seems to be optimal.
When/if the masses cease buying the phones because of SE reusing hard- and software things would change by necessity. |
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@hansen: True but SE should not _solely_ rely on old hardware. No one would care if SE had a number of slower handsets in terms of CPU speeds next to some handsets with up-to-date CPU speeds in its current portfolio.
At the end of the day however, also Joe Average will notice that his 208Mhz-G900 has a more sluggish UI than his neighbours 330Mhz-N78 or 330Mhz-Moto Z8.
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On 2008-02-15 11:49:14, hymie wrote:
@hansen: True but SE should not _solely_ rely on old hardware. No one would care if SE had a number of slower handsets in terms of CPU speeds next to some handsets with up-to-date CPU speeds in its current portfolio.
At the end of the day however, also Joe Average will notice that his 208Mhz-G900 has a more sluggish UI than his neighbours 330Mhz-N78 or 330Mhz-Moto Z8.
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hymie
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The portfolio should contain also some spec-wise cutting edge offerings, something to aspire to and also spread brand glory onto mid-range models.
Agreed that in the end the user experience compared to other brands will make it nessecary to move on. I guess SE doesn't think this time has come yet, and that the G series will sell, which is the ultimate goal.
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