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Asterion76
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Posted: 2008-02-21 15:49
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And here lies the next problem; how do you clean it? I've tried a tissue on the end of a paperclip and that hasn't done a thing. I can clearly see a difference between my K850 and the new one, but can't figure out how to get something in there to remove the dirt.


Can we try with compressed air spray? I don't want to use something that may damage my phone.
tai020381
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Posted: 2008-02-21 15:52
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Can anyone answer my question???? Does the new firmware included a new option of setting the Flash to a forced version???
Asterion76
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Posted: 2008-02-21 15:53
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I don't think so, If you look at Duran's Pictures the red color is still Pink.
Maybe we will need to wait for a Custom Cam Driver release.


To be honest, I think we have to wait for C902i
Next time I will buy a SE phone, I'm going to read a lot of forums, not only thw reviews.
Asterion76
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Posted: 2008-02-21 16:00
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SonyEricsson must learn the lesson: camera and sensor HAVE TO BE covered. Look at the hidden slide of C902 or the sliding plate of K800.
Duran
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Posted: 2008-02-21 16:04
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I did extensive cleaning with a toothbrush and i think its better now!
But I still get flashburn on some other objects.
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jmcomms
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Posted: 2008-02-21 16:04
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I tried a paperclip and that didn't help. In fact, it made it worse; such that the photo I got was almost totally whited out!

In the end, I took a safety pin and, gently, tried to scoop out any dirt - and this suddenly resulted in little bits of dirt flaking off.

Et voila! I am now getting comparable pictures to the new K850i. Result!

So, if the firmware issues are now solved (or at worst, partially solved), the next problem for K850i users is going to be this sensor. I think this should be put in any FAQ on the forum!
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iqmaster158
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Posted: 2008-02-21 16:06
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duran u know..when u shoot something from 10cm distance with flash and the object is even pretty lightreflective (whatever), you just wont get better result i suppose:)

and yes..right..the sensor is pain in the ass..people shld know bout this problem and how to solve it..because i think that maintaining this sensor should be a frequent "to do"

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Duran
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Posted: 2008-02-21 16:07
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Got me thinking..i can't really sense if im making a picture of anything white..can it?
I mean white does reflect more light but not enough for the sensor to detect it right?
jmcomms
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Posted: 2008-02-21 16:09
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On 2008-02-21 16:04:33, Duran wrote:
I did extensive cleaning with a toothbrush and i think its better now!


Well done! Now we can just tell people that to fix their phone they will need;

a) PC with USB lead for firmware update
b) Toothbrush for camera update

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Duran
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Posted: 2008-02-21 16:10
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On 2008-02-21 16:06:15, iqmaster158 wrote:
duran u know..when u shoot something from 10cm distance with flash and the object is even pretty lightreflective (whatever), you just wont get better result i suppose:)
I know that, but i've seen the flash fire way shorter than it does when i shoot on white objects.
They should either
1) figure a way for the phone to reduce flash power when shooting at white objects
2) allow us to use the LEd flash as well (My k750 takes perfect shots of white/macro objects)
iqmaster158
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Posted: 2008-02-21 16:11
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agree..the problem is no more the sensor but the power of the flash..thats it..
jmcomms
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Posted: 2008-02-21 16:18
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The intensity of the flash is adjustable, which the light sensor controls. If that is dirty, or covered, it will calculate incorrectly and you'll end up with an image that is over, or under, exposed.

The problem with the lamp not firing properly, or firing out of sync, was corrected a while ago.

I must admit that I am amazed SE managed to get away with releasing the K850 as it was before. This new firmware, which I am sure isn't perfect and we'll spot bugs in the coming days, has made my K850i feel like an all new phone.

I think I'm going to call it the K851 from now on. LOL
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mark187
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Posted: 2008-02-21 16:20
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I guess for those of you upgrading from 037 it feels like a big jump in terms of speed but from 038 it's barely noticeable.

What a disappointment.
fullforce
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Posted: 2008-02-21 16:21
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Just a small survey- Does anybody else still have the java/operation failed problem after updating?
If so please post here!
jmcomms
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Posted: 2008-02-21 16:23
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On 2008-02-21 16:20:48, mark187 wrote:
I guess for those of you upgrading from 037 it feels like a big jump in terms of speed but from 038 it's barely noticeable. What a disappointment.


If you already had this speed on 038, you can't surely be disappointed? You got the benefit of this speed increase earlier than we did.

Did that have the other new features, such as being able to lock exclusively to 3G or the vibration when you press the touch buttons?

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