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mark187
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Posted: 2008-02-13 15:35
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On 2008-02-13 15:26:51, richardc1983 wrote:
THe one at the front when you put ur finger over it the display dims down.? SO thats some sort of light sensor, the other one i thought was a light sensor also?

So what are we cleaning out with a tootpick then?


The phone has 2 light sensors. One for the Screen and one for the camera function. What you cleaned was the camera light sensor.

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the-prince
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Posted: 2008-02-13 15:44
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On 2008-02-13 15:21:46, richardc1983 wrote:

On 2008-02-13 14:43:24, Naamloos wrote:

On 2008-02-13 14:32:42, mark187 wrote:

On 2008-02-13 14:31:27, Naamloos wrote:
Dude, are you referring to the little black hole next to the 3 LED's ?? Thats not a light sensor its a MIC! The camera lens detects if there's light or not.

No. That's the light sensor.


There's an easy way to find out;
1. Cover your imaginary light sensor and take a photo of your monitor or some place where theres light.

2. Now cover your lens and do the same.

Or goto page 157 and you'll see that its not even on the ribbon.




When i cover the little black hole and take a picture the flash doesnt go off, if i cover the camera lens the flash goes off.

Now im confused? Whats this all about covering the light sensor and cleaning it out with a toothpick if when you cover it up it doenst do anything.

Im assuming its the little black hole?



did the same and got same results, when i cover it up the flash doesnt go off, when i cover the lens the flash does go off.


however not a mic either because i tried to record video with it covered up and i could still hear good sound. so wot is it then?!
richardc1983
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Posted: 2008-02-13 15:47
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Me thinks this is some sort of grub screw holding it together.

It cant be light sensor as doesnt do anything when you cover it up?

The lens seems to do the light measuring.
mark187
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Posted: 2008-02-13 15:49
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however not a mic either because i tried to record video with it covered up and i could still hear good sound. so wot is it then?!


A god-damn flash light sensor!

I'll qoute SE again...

http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]50i/hotfaqs?cc=us&lc=en#335507


Why are my photos taken with flash dark?

Make sure you handle the camera according to the camera leaflet you received when you bought your phone. If you hold the phone so that your fingers or only parts of your fingers is in the way and reflects light from the flash directly into the flash light sensor located just below the flash window, the Xenon (Xe)flash will be stopped to early and the picture will get under-exposed (too dark).


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fullforce
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Posted: 2008-02-13 15:53
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Yes it is! Check the instructions that came with the phone that tells you to keep your fingers away from the lightsensor while taking shots. So let's drop this and go on with the nagging and wondering about the new firmware.
Do you think it will arrive tomorrow? I don't.
B.Thomas
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Posted: 2008-02-13 15:55
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nOOb Question! When I update I push on the C button. But when do I let go of it in the update phase
the-prince
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Posted: 2008-02-13 16:02
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A god-damn flash light sensor!



so why doesnt anything happen when you cover it up then?!haha

but yeh wotever its not important
richardc1983
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Posted: 2008-02-13 16:20
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can someone explain then why the flash does not go off when i cover it up and take a pic but when i cover the lens the flash goes off.!
Naamloos
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Posted: 2008-02-13 16:25
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On 2008-02-13 16:02:33, the-prince wrote:


A god-damn flash light sensor!



so why doesnt anything happen when you cover it up then?!haha

but yeh wotever its not important


Okay I was wrong, its not a MIC its a Xenon FLASH light sensor thats why nothing happens when you cover it.
n4d3r
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Posted: 2008-02-13 16:32
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Did anybody else notice this on the first page??

"R1DA039
- '3' network branded version of R1DA038 "

Alfaro
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Posted: 2008-02-13 16:34
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On 2008-02-13 16:32:48, n4d3r wrote:
Did anybody else notice this on the first page??

"R1DA039
- '3' network branded version of R1DA038 "


i notice.. it's the same thing of R1DA038... no big deal...
the-prince
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Posted: 2008-02-13 16:45
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Okay I was wrong, its not a MIC its a Xenon FLASH light sensor thats why nothing happens when you cover it.


i get it you mean when the flash goes off its a sensor for that, so it knows how much light is there when the flash is lighting up the place, makes sense now!haha
richardc1983
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Posted: 2008-02-13 16:46
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Think were all getting confused, why when we cover this "light sensor" up does the flash not go off? What does it actually do does it judge how long to leave the flash on for?


On 2008-02-13 16:25:22, Naamloos wrote:

On 2008-02-13 16:02:33, the-prince wrote:


A god-damn flash light sensor!



so why doesnt anything happen when you cover it up then?!haha

but yeh wotever its not important


Okay I was wrong, its not a MIC its a Xenon FLASH light sensor thats why nothing happens when you cover it.
mark187
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Posted: 2008-02-13 16:47
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i get it you mean when the flash goes off its a sensor for that, so it knows how much light is there when the flash is lighting up the place, makes sense now!haha

It tells the variable flash how powerfully it should fire. You know the L.E.Ds that come on when taking a picture, their light is reflected back to the sensor. If it receives a lot of light back the camera assumes an object is very close and thus the flash is fired weakly. The opposite is true if it doesn't receive much reflected light.




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Posted: 2008-02-13 16:50
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On 2008-02-13 16:32:48, n4d3r wrote:
Did anybody else notice this on the first page??

"R1DA039
- '3' network branded version of R1DA038 "




It's been around for a while, but the first page was only updated yesterday. It is literally a 3-branded firmware, so nothing to get excited about.
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