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mwarner
Joined: Dec 23, 2003
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For everyone who wonders where I am these days, I thought I would let you know that I do still keep an eye on the forum - but by no means as much as I used to because, as some of you know, I returned by K850 very early on and have a Nokia N82 now.
As for the updates, I still plan to keep the front page up to date when the new firmware is released. If some of you guys who spend more time here than I could PM me with VERIFYABLE bugs & issues with current and previous firmware issues I will be glad to add them to the front page. By verifyable I mean that you can test them on a second K850 and verify that the problem can be reproduced. Obviously I used to do this myself, but no longer having a K850 means that this is impossible for me .... unless SE sends me one for free (which is not likely, given the generally negative comments in this thread so far!)
Right ... off to play with my N82. Just to let you all know, this phone isn't perfect either. The Media Player can get itself into a pickle very easily, which can be very annoying - my work collegue thought his MicroSD had broken and was on the verge of chucking it!!! Having said that it is fairly straightforward to fix if you know what to do and the featureset and performance is truly great (my phone runs a full web server, a full office suite, the excellent GPS driven Nokia Sports Tracker and Wellness applications and a couple of GPS apps (Nokia Maps 2.0 beta and Route 66). It should also be running Doom, but mine crashes before startup ... better fix this at some point!) |
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shawon
Joined: Jan 17, 2008
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Hello! Welcome back. Can you update the firstpost please? If so, thanks. If not, nevermind.
By The Way - are you planning on getting the k850 again? and do you have inside information about SE FW for k850 like mizzle? If so can you post?
Thanks, and may your valentines be a good one.
EDIT: sorry - didnt read your whole post. nevermind.
Edit: Edit: Do you think it is wise to trade-in the k850 for a N82?
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Dart5
Joined: Mar 03, 2005
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@mwarner -
As you have the N82 now, can you tell me if there's a forum similar to Easto, but Nokia based please? |
Mizzle
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Still no firmwares available whatsoever for the K850 / W910 at EMMA.
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The Barron
Joined: Jan 10, 2007
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boo come on SE give us an early valentines present |
Krzysiecw
Joined: May 23, 2006
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If it`s true that they will add some features that c902 includes and refresh a UI i can wait a month  But only when they will really change the new firmware for a better of course 
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Mizzle
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The camera features will probably not come in this firmware version, but the next instead. The new menu like on W760, W980, and alike, should come in this one, though.
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Supa_Fly
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On 2008-02-12 09:29:30, tonchy wrote:
My question is how many of this bugs are really documented bugs and by that i mean bugs that affect 100% of the handsets all the time, i can hardly think of any. The bugs seem to appear on certain handsets within certain FWs and intermitently.
SE limited warranty can then be claimed if it is proven that you have a defective device and i think that is how SE will handle the different cases since no single bug is on 100% of their devices.
I think there are huge differences between devices depending not only on the FW they are running but the batch they were made in and the origin.
Plus where does SE promises its customers to deliver new FW updates? is it oficially written somewhere so that we can use it on our favor? AFAIK i don't think so. SE does it because they "somewhat" care about customer satisfaction, their image and their market share. You cannot demand updates based on how often they update other product either since obviously some are less buggy than others, and some updates are not necessarily bug fixers but improvents in performance.
would an internet thread like this one count as prove of oficial bugs in a device? my point is if let's say 10 ppl have the zoom/volume bug then SE limited warranty would come into play and SE will replace those phones and be done with it.
I think SE got their arses covered.
Anyway back into the topic of the new FW. i have information that this new FW will have Mobile TV support, the app will be under the media manager menu like it has been spotted somewhere. (nice touch isn't it?)
I am also keeping my fingers crossed that it will have some camera functions from the recently released phones such as facefinder from the C series or point to focus (touch focus) from the G series. what do you think?
Sure SE can take the "cop-out" route saying its voided warranty or limited warranty. Go back to my original post on this "Class Action Lawsuit" idea and you'll see in this thread alone there are roughly 50+ users on Esato with SE K850i's that have the SAME issues with music playback. I'm estimating here and I'm sure its a lot more, and other issues are higher. Of course for a class-action lawsuit to exist its gotta be THOUSANDS! And don't think its a crazy idea, because ppl didn't like 4hrs battery life on gen 3/4 iPods and that was VERY successful against Apple for imbedded batteries - at a time where 3hrs battery life for music playback was COMMON! Heck no lawsuit ever existed for battery life on Palm OS PDA's when they advertised music playback.
On 2008-02-12 10:47:26, vortigern wrote:
sueing people etc never did squat.... people who do that are just the modern day equivalent of trade unions - stifling progress and costing billions.
If the device was really buggy then they'd lose the reputation and so the company would lose value- so it's not in their interest.
The phone has a couple of issues that'll be fixed soon, they say, so they ain't ignoring it, they're getting on with it. Just not as fast as we'd like!
Lawsuits and the like just add to the cost of the phone and mean that features that they might have added are left off in case it doesn't work right and they get sued.
ie. saying that you'll start a lawsuit on them 'cos the GrEq doesn't work right.. they can just remove it - if it ain't there, it can't not work!
Oh really? Then look to the class actions that STOPPED bad business practices of significantly increasing prices to users ON CONTRACT for Sprint/Nextel. Look at the same for MMS charges on Verizon. Then also look to users on AT&T Blue ... which eventually lead to the Cingular Wireless to AT&T Wireless. Don't be so quick to relate to a union which is COMPLETELY different. I'm talking about hard facts; things that directly relate to the consumer. Remember so many reports of defective batteries on Nokia phones? That was another successful case; and users did NOT absorb ANY cost!
NO this will NOT increase prices to the user in any way; if the suit is successful; the provider absorbs the cost.
ALLL I'm saying folks is that DIGG will only show the already familiar community about issues with a phone forgotten in Sunday's press release. I'm giving an idea to help THOSE OF YOU that OWN the K850i a chance to push SE into getting something done to ALE the issues you're facing thats all. I'm seeing too many complaints on 100+ pages of this thread and its concerning me. Don't shoot down an idea without at least thinking it through & considering if it has merritt, pls.
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fullforce
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@mizzle
And what's those menus like? How do they differ from the K850 menu?
Just curious
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The Barron
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and i mustve missed something somewhere, what are the camera improvements? do we have specifics or do you mean just general improvements |
>500
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he is referring to the new menu icons..... if you look at the w760i, they now have 'reflections'........ hard to explain, but you can see it your self!
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Sebby
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On 2008-02-12 20:17:13, Wild Boyy wrote:
I Have Money But I Havn't Any Cradit Card Then How Can I Buy This???
Save your money. 038 and 039 and generally just operator specific, and if anything are worse than 037. Hang in there as a new firmware is supposidly imminent. |
Warrentaye
Joined: Sep 29, 2002
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I should get the US model shipped this week, lets hope and see if there is an update to coincide with the US release and what firmware these versions carry also.
I think there will be some fixes to the US version as SE always do when making a US version of an unlocked phone. |
The Barron
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@ >500
do you have a link to any images? |
Supa_Fly
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On 2008-02-12 13:45:09, Mizzle wrote:
This was in fact the firmware of W760 (when it wasn't announced), and this firmware revision was still in operator testing. Anyhow, as you can see with the number of phones, the base is the exact same, and this proves there was an R3 firmware (at least for testing).
So am I right in guessing the 2mth delays for Firmwares (last 2 where 2mths apart for the K850i) is due to the different fragmentation of A200 devices?
* K850i has image stabilization (others don't)
* W890i is the only A200 platform on market that is Walkman branded that is 3G for European nations.
* W760i has GPS built-in with A-GPS support (WayFinder inbedded); sorry the Z750i also is supposed to have GPS built-in (no auto focus; not walkman like the upcoming W760i).
* W910i also A200 but no 3G.
Are these differences causing SonyEricsson developers this much trouble or is it causing the branding team issues with providers. SE SHOULD have kept to the original press statement that no provider branding would be set on the K850i? Or is this statement regarding SE doing the branding.
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Posted: 2008-02-12 22:16
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