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absinthebri
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On 2005-07-10 13:44:47, ThreeX wrote:
Anyway, just my .2€ 
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Why did you say .2€ and not .2$? Are you anti-American?
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carkitter
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Hahaha! 
That'll start a flame war!
I'm now 33yrs old and my political and religious views have changed and matured alot, during the last 5 years in paricluar. I am passionate about the things I believe and I think all people should have a well-thought-out political view and religious belief system. The trouble is that most people simply repeat meaningless media slogans and conspiracy theories. I used to do this too. I guess it's where you start when you first become aware of the way the world works...
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ThreeX
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On 2005-07-10 13:50:07, absinthebri wrote:
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On 2005-07-10 13:44:47, ThreeX wrote:
Anyway, just my .2€
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Why did you say .2€ and not .2$? Are you anti-American?
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Absolutely not! My heart really bleeds for the native Americans, put in reservations like second class citizens
*Oops, hope i didn´t start something now*
Seriously, The € feels closer to home than the $ I can edit it to SEK 2.00 if it makes anybody feel better
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scotsboyuk
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I would be quite interested in hearing the opinions of the other moderators on this issue.
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absinthebri
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On 2005-07-10 17:26:30, scotsboyuk wrote:
I would be quite interested in hearing the opinions of the other moderators on this issue.
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scotsboyuk
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@absin
Believe it or not, but not everyone sees the world in terms of who supports who and who does not. You have consistently tried to take this thread off-topic because you do not like the subject matter.
Having already spoken to some of the moderators on this subject I already know what their opinion of it is. I would simply like to hear what they have to say in relation to some of the points, which have been made in this thread so far. As surprising as it may be for you, I do not need others to support my point of view, I am quite capable of making my arguments on my own.
I should point out though, that I am highly doubtful of the moderators giving me any great deal of support on this issue. Hardly a case for calling for them to support me!
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absinthebri
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On 2005-07-10 17:46:08, scotsboyuk wrote:
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Believe it or not, but not everyone sees the world in terms of who supports who and who does not. You have consistently tried to take this thread off-topic because you do not like the subject matter.
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I believe it. I speak for me. Where have I attempted to go off-topic?
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Having already spoken to some of the moderators on this subject I already know what their opinion of it is. I would simply like to hear what they have to say in relation to some of the points, which have been made in this thread so far. As surprising as it may be for you, I do not need others to support my point of view, I am quite capable of making my arguments on my own.
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I know you are. You're quite political when you feel like it; you just don't like it when other people are.
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scotsboyuk
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@absin
Look back over your posts and you shall see where you have tried to threadjack.
Everyone is political, we all have opinions. I try my best to leave politics out of my participation on Esato, it is a mobile phone forum after all. It seems perfectly sensible to me that if one wishes to discuss such issues one does not go to a mobile phone forum.
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scotsboyuk
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I use to discuss politics quite heavily here at Esato until I realised what a complete waste of time doing so actually is. I would get into flame wars with people and there would be pettiness unbounded. Usually two narrow minded camps would form on each side determined to push their views upon the other, degenerating into ever more petty squabbling. It doesn't appear to have changed a great deal.
Having had first hand experience of this I can't say I like it one bit. Esato doesn't need that sort of behaviour at all. It would be great if we could have such debates without all the animosity and fighting, but that appears to be beyond us for some reason.
I come to Esato for mobile phones and fun. I also come to Esato to help people with their problems. I don't come to Esato for politics. I go to a political forum for that.
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@absinthebri
Why are you creating an argument here? Scotsboy was making a very valid and respectful point. Don't undermine the thread with a stupid argument over nothing. The truth is, politics have become so embedded in everyone (a good thing) that when a contrary point to ones opinion is explicated it is bound to create unrest.
Plus, if you have a problem with scotsboy why not pm him? Its stupid posts that turn good forums in a place only fit for rubbish.
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absinthebri
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On 2005-07-10 17:53:17, scotsboyuk wrote:
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Look back over your posts and you shall see where you have tried to threadjack.
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I've read tham all. I did write them. I wouldn't ask if I knew.
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Everyone is political, we all have opinions. I try my best to leave politics out of my participation on Esato, it is a mobile phone forum after all. It seems perfectly sensible to me that if one wishes to discuss such issues one does not go to a mobile phone forum.
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I think that many of us don't come here to discuss politics (I arrived when I bought my T68i) but that some of us are very aware that actions have consequences and all things are interconnected.
Remember the adverts on TV before the General Election "I don't do politics"? Politics, for better or worse, is everywhere.
I do agree, it can be rather tedious when it's the same old stuff that comes up every time (and I'm someone who's interested in it).
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scotsboyuk
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@absin
We both know exactly what you were trying to do and I'm quite sure anyone with eyes in their head can too. Hence I shan't further dilute this thread by replying to that particular point.
I have no problem with politics/religion being discussed where it can be discussed in a civil manner that does not lead to flaming or petty squabbles. Sadly that doesn't appear to be the norm, rather it would be the exception to the rule.
The point still remains; why come to a mobile phone forum to discuss politics? I am a member of a political forum too (www.projectevil.com) where I go if I wish to discuss such issues. If I have a political question to ask or debate my first thought is not of Esato. Funnily enough I tend to think of Esato as somewhere I can go to learn about and discuss mobile phones.
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absinthebri
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On 2005-07-10 18:02:19, gbrooks3 wrote:
@absinthebri
Why are you creating an argument here? Scotsboy was making a very valid and respectful point. Don't undermine the thread with a stupid argument over nothing. The truth is, politics have become so embedded in everyone (a good thing) that when a contrary point to ones opinion is explicated it is bound to create unrest.
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All I'm saying is that anything can be political and when you have no politics, you have nothing.
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Plus, if you have a problem with scotsboy why not pm him? Its stupid posts that turn good forums in a place only fit for rubbish.
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I actually enjoy his posts as he's consistently coherent. He uses apostrophies and stuff.
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absinthebri
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On 2005-07-10 18:08:01, scotsboyuk wrote:
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We both know exactly what you were trying to do and I'm quite sure anyone with eyes in their head can too. Hence I shan't further dilute this thread by replying to that particular point.
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I DON'T see it. Honestly.
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I have no problem with politics/religion being discussed where it can be discussed in a civil manner that does not lead to flaming or petty squabbles. Sadly that doesn't appear to be the norm, rather it would be the exception to the rule.
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I'm not disagreeing with that.
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The point still remains; why come to a mobile phone forum to discuss politics? I am a member of a political forum too (www.projectevil.com) where I go if I wish to discuss such issues. If I have a political question to ask or debate my first thought is not of Esato. Funnily enough I tend to think of Esato as somewhere I can go to learn about and discuss mobile phones.
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I'm not sure people do come here to discuss politics, merely that politics naturally comes up when discussing life. As does religion. Certainly, when I want to learn and discuss political issues, Esato isn't my obvious choice.
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scotsboyuk
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On 2005-07-10 18:13:05, absinthebri wrote:
All I'm saying is that anything can be political and when you have no politics, you have nothing.
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That's a valid point, in the real world, but this isn't the real world. This is a mobile phone forum. The last time I checked, discussion of the situation in Iraq wasn't a prequisite for discussing SE's latest models or how to connect to the internet through your handset.
Mobile phone issues for mobile phone forums; political issues for political forums.
If we must have them here then I think they need to be 'policed' more heavily. Keep them inside their own little threads and away from everyone else.
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