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dmgpizen
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Posted: 2002-07-16 08:46
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P800 will not/is not the only product it will support......

http://www.memorystick.org/msinfo/eng/ms/duo.html

According to this an adapter has been made



Wrote it the wrong place ...... sorry....


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faca
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Posted: 2002-07-16 10:22
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Sony is evil?

http://www.wirelesssoftware.info/show1news.php/380.html

P800 could have been the perfect phone to have... Too bad it's being produced by Sony (MS Duo) and Ericsson (bad developer support)...

Btw, has anyone seen this little thingy:

http://www.telme.cc/en/products/mobilephones/t919/index.html

Oh yeah, as for the MPEG recording stuff, on Nokia 7650 it can only do 160 x 120 clips with about 10 fps. I don't think the P800 version will be more powerful (probably just more expensive ).




[ This Message was edited by: faca on 2002-07-16 09:24 ]
jplacson
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Posted: 2002-07-16 11:19
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Funny how people consider MMC and SD as "standards" when they rival each other, and not all devices use both, they are NOT interoperable, and are still expensive!

At LEAST the MS Duo and MS are compatible, the Duo can use an adapter to be used by standard MemStick devices like the Clie or other Sony products.

If MMC and SD are "standards", can I stuff my MMC into the Palm's SD slot? Not all SD devices can be used in SD slots! What kind of standardization is that???? That's dumb.

I think $100 for the 128MB MStick is pretty reasonable. Not cheap, but at least it's not outrageous.
faca
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Posted: 2002-07-16 11:34
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MMC is a standard, SD is a separate standard (I think). They are both widely used by different devices from different manufacturers. MS and MS Duo are proprietary. And they are not compatible. Will you be able to insert a (normal) Memory Stick into your P800? Don't think so...


[ This Message was edited by: faca on 2002-07-16 10:40 ]
andrew99
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Posted: 2002-07-16 13:20
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@faca

Memory stick is licensed to a lot of other manufacturers. I agree SD or MMC may be nicer, but mem stick is not all that bad.

It remains to be seen how expensive and available the duo is, but at least the p800 has got removable memory...
There is not a lot of point having lots of apps written for the 7650, beucase with only 4meg it will only be able to load one!

Clove918
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Posted: 2002-07-16 14:37
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Quote:

On 2002-07-16 03:17, SunilC wrote:
You mean this?





Yeah! This is the one that I mean, thanks alot man!
If you just took away the keypad and trew in a pen it would be great!
Is that a memory stick dou? 64 mb?


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caff
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Posted: 2002-07-16 15:03
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It is MS duo.....and the keypad can be slide in and out just like 7650........hope they are going to release it as it look so good, the colour on the screen looks great and bright...if it gonna come out, its gonna kick all the nokia's !!!
Fingers
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Posted: 2002-07-16 15:13
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That picture is of a normal MS, the duo is a similar size to the SD and MMC, that's quite an old photo now
psikey
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Posted: 2002-07-16 15:21
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Sorry if this has already been posted but it is a good read about P800 with reference to bluetooth keyboard & editing Word & Excel files.

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t298-s2109092,00.html

mmort7
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Posted: 2002-07-16 15:50
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"You can also use this as a laptop for a short trip. If you have a Bluetooth keyboard, you can enter all the data you want -- there will be a whole range of peripherals to connect to this wirelessly. People will realise they can carry out work on this, particularly since you can edit documents like Word and Excel."

Hmmm, looks interesting.
jplacson
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Posted: 2002-07-16 16:30
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Fingers, that is the Duo... look closely at the name printed on it.

Re: Memstick, I can't use a regular memstick on devices using the Duo, but I can use the Duo on devices that use a regular memstick... You can't do that either way with MMC and SD.

They may be "open" standards, but the fact that there are TWO, doesn't make them "standard". The fact that different devices use them differently makes them very incosistent. The SD Bluetooth card of Palm will only work with Palm devices... not SD devices. That's weird, don't you think?
Clove918
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Posted: 2002-07-16 20:36
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Cool, but is there a 64mb dou out now?
How much does the 16mb duo cost?
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Posted: 2002-07-16 21:06
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Naa, really? It looks too big, just thought it looked too much like a normal MS. Cool, it's a good format
mariWing
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Posted: 2002-07-17 09:48
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With regards to the "standards" MMC and SD, how about CF (Compact Flash). Most digital cameras use CF-cards and they are far more cheaper than MMC/SD/MS/MSDuo.

It is just stupid to talk about MMC and SD as an standard, a standard is something like a CD. A CD can be played in a whole lot of devices and has almost no alternatives. With memorycards you have four alternatives, not four standards!

Just my 50 øre

mariWing
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Posted: 2002-07-17 12:27
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So what would think is better?

The P800 with a small screen and brick design or just buying the new IPAQ with a better screen and long lasting battery, that you could use your T68i with?

Personally I feel like going for the IPAQ since software will be much easier to retrieve than the P800.

As for that Sony Ericsson concept phone, I wish they’d release that than the P800, it looks so nice
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