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Clove918
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Posted: 2002-07-15 14:21
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Why isnīt there a forum for the P800 already?
Well here it comes...
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Clove918
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Posted: 2002-07-15 14:21
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How many channels does SE P800 have for ringtones??
I havenīt seen that anywhere, acually I havīnt seen any information from thet it even will have poly......ringtones.
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Posted: 2002-07-15 14:34
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The p800 play both imelody format and real soundfiles(wav,au,amr)
ex: wav is pcm (pulse code modulation) sampled at 22,050khz in 8 bit mono.. (the sample rate can be altered but its recomended to use the 22khz) and its ok course it will theoretically provide a Ft (higest frequenz that can samples and be playd back) at 10khz..
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Posted: 2002-07-15 14:37
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A the P800 is going to be a mini PDA, i do hope that GPS software/hardware will become available. Its becoming popular on the full size PAD's from Compaq and Palm, so it would be great for the P800. Screen might be a bit small though. It would also be cheaper then having GPS factory fitted to your car, which here in the UK costs a minimum of Ģ800.
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Posted: 2002-07-15 14:47
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I wondered about something, if you want an animated screensaver on p800 what type of file should you use then?
gif-files are only 256 colors...

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Posted: 2002-07-15 14:48
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Since P800 is implementing Symbian OS open-platform, I think that we will see many useful applications released for this phone since well, anyone with interest and energy can make programs and maybe make some money on it too.

For some time ago, an Esato member raised the issue of the keypad on the P800 and how ugly it is. But hey, the keypad is removable, which means that it wouldn't take long before third party makers release their own stylish P800 keypads that we can exchange to instead. The possibilities are endless! P800's gonna be a great phone, a milestone in mobile-history!
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Posted: 2002-07-15 14:53
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Yeah, a GPS would be great with P800
I would like if there was a function so a could track down all of my friends to almost like Friendfinder but on the phone....
But if p800 can handle html will it be possible to access internet?
Would be cool with a w-lan accessory
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Posted: 2002-07-15 17:25
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On 2002-07-15 14:48, kevin81 wrote:

Since P800 is implementing Symbian OS open-platform, I think that we will see many useful applications released for this phone since well, anyone with interest and energy can make programs and maybe make some money on it too.



I don't think you will see a lot of applications for the P800 because the SDK for it costs 1500$. Hence, no freeware apps and games, and very little (if any) shareware. The rest of the software will just be too expensive because companies will have to get back the money they spent on the SDK (and the rest of SE crap). Enthusiasts just can't afford it to make cheap or free software for this phone. What a shame...

There will be a lot more applications for the Nokia 7650 and future Nokia, Siemens and Panasonic smartphones since they are all based on Nokia's Series 60 Platform which has a free SDK.

I don't think I'll buy the P800 because of this (memory stick duo will be very expensive too compared to e.g. MMC of the same size). I think I'll just wait for the next Nokia smartphone which will probably outspec even the P800.
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Posted: 2002-07-15 17:29
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then i'll be sorry for you cos you'll wait for a long time.

[ This Message was edited by: cadcad on 2002-07-15 16:30 ]
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Posted: 2002-07-15 17:41
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If you are waiting for a P800, so will you...

[ This Message was edited by: faca on 2002-07-15 16:42 ]
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Posted: 2002-07-15 18:49
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I was the one who raised the issue on the ugly keypad on the P800 (and the other new SE models), I will still buy it, and will use it without the keypad.

SDKs are expensive, but the Symbian OS accepts apps developed in Java and C++... so there will be people who can make free apps and games, just like when Epoc was still alive.

The P800 screensavers will only be animated GIFs. Although, it can play MPEG4 movies. Whether the OS allows MPEG4 to be used as a screensaver, that's up to Symbian.

I was wondering however, if the OS7 UIQ can support a landscape mode on the P800, like on the R380. Just a thought, would be nice to have the option to rotate the screen. Not essential, but would just be nice to have.

A built-in fax program that could send and receive would be useful too. Hopefully, the Word & Excel function won't be limited to just viewing... I hope editors will be available too.

Since the OS is by Symbian, SDKs can come from SE or Symbian... I think the SE SDK is for serious corporate parnters... free apps, and games can be made using Java, C++ or a Symbian SDK.

I'm so glad the P800 has a Mem Stick! Soon, we can have 128MB in our phones!!!! hehehehe... that's just so amusing to me!

There's a company developing an app to record MPEG4 videos on the Nokia 7650 (What can you record with 4MB???)... hopefully we will see this on the P800 soon... it WOULD be cool to have a video AND still cam on the P800... and with the memstick, it actually makes it useful! Maybe they can call it the P800 Handycam??? hehehehe
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Posted: 2002-07-15 19:29
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I was the one who raised the issue on the ugly keypad on the P800 (and the other new SE models), I will still buy it, and will use it without the keypad.



Really? Will you be holding a phone in one hand and the pen in the other every time you want to answer/make a phone call or read an SMS? Or will you be touching the screen with your fingers and than cleaning it every night?

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SDKs are expensive, but the Symbian OS accepts apps developed in Java and C++... so there will be people who can make free apps and games, just like when Epoc was still alive.



If you want to write apps in C++ you NEED the SDK! And Java? It is slow, can't use camera, sound, bluetooth, phonebook data, PIM data etc. It pretty much useless for anything more serious than a tetris game. You can even run Java apps on a Nokia 3410, and that's a lot cheaper than a P800.

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A built-in fax program that could send and receive would be useful too. Hopefully, the Word & Excel function won't be limited to just viewing... I hope editors will be available too.



You plan to edit Word & Excel files on yout phone?!? What on earth for?

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Since the OS is by Symbian, SDKs can come from SE or Symbian...



Yeah right, guess again. ..

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I think the SE SDK is for serious corporate parnters... free apps, and games can be made using Java, C++ or a Symbian SDK.



Trust me, there will be no free useful apps for the P800 unless SE changes something...

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I'm so glad the P800 has a Mem Stick!



I would be more glad if it had a SD/MMC slot... You do realize that you will only have 16MB MS Duo's for quite a while (remember, this is MS Duo, not MS)?

Clove918
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Posted: 2002-07-15 20:13
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Woops, someone woke up on the wrong side today

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Posted: 2002-07-15 20:41
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Sorry, I have a strong toothache and I'm just pissed at everything/everybody. I really should be going to the dentist instead of posting my BS here... Just pay no attention to me...
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Posted: 2002-07-15 20:55
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Oh oh! I was really looking forward to the p800, but if what faca tells is true I must rethink what my next phone will be. You know, for me additional software is very important. So maybe I'll have to buy the 7650 even if I like the p800 much more. As I already said 3rd party SW is very important and if it is really true what faca says them there will be tons of applications on the 7650. But I still hope the SDK for the p800 will be free or at least very cheap. 3rd party SW will make or break the p800!!!

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