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Is there any competition for the 6630 ? |
whizkidd
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Yeah. One hand operation is very crucial for guys like me!
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Pradhika
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Who knows? Records are broken with style in this field.
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66304u
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we (my cpw branch) tested the clarity, picture softness, colour exposure, etc between the s700 and the 6630, then asked the public to decide between the two...and the 6630 won...even under max zoom, the loss in quality is very much evident on the s700...very pixelly..even when we printed the pictures out, the sharpness is clear on the 6630...ut, comparing these two phones for features is invalid...obviously...as for video calls...it's a gimmick...thats why nokia didn't build a camera into the phone...we found alot of people don't really care about video calls...naturally, it's fun at first, but it soon wears off...6630 is a real step up from whats gone before...ie 7610, 6600...there are some very good obvious changes, apart from the ones you can't see...the os upgrade, the 3d grafix engine...
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Valentiner
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On 2005-01-16 16:14:05, k4m!k4ze wrote:
But still, video calling is a luxury most cant afford in some countries, but the 6630 is a great phone even without that. It comes just behind the s700 and that too because the s700's cam is better, nothing more.
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I agree with 66304um and I totally disagree with k4m!k4ze, which doesn't know what he is talking about. The Camera in 6630 is slightly better than S700 in general, and much better in dark / dusk conditions (even without a flash).
The pluses of S700 (in fact let's consider S710 which has EDGE  ) against 6630 are the screen and the flash (which I use as a small lock finder on my k700 at nights ) and the nice UIQ3.
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johnmcl7
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66304u: I agree with you, I was offered a cheap 6630 on an upgrade (I didn't expect to get anything decent without forking out) so thought I may as well give it a go - I have no interest in video calls and even if I did, I don't know anyone with a 3G phone that also lives in 3G reception so the feature is completely useless to me - I'm glad Nokia didn't compromise the phone's design, weight or MP camera by adding a second camera or a swiveling one. I'm surprised they haven't made a 3G version of the 6260 though, its swivelling screen would be ideal of video calls. I have to admit, the video calling stand makes for a cool desktop charger 
As for the camera, I was really impressed with 7610 camera pictures, given that phone doesn't really sacrifice anything for it (unlike the S700) the quality is very good. The 6630 is also excellent, while out shooting with my proper cameras I took some shots with the 6630 and they are not bad at all - on my other phones I never use the camera because the quality is so dire, that's not the case with the 6630. I would have really liked a flash though, that would have killed the battery further no doubt but I would like to be able to take pics in pubs and things when I have forgotten a digital camera or want a quick pic to send an mms with.
This is my first Nokia in a while, and aside from a few S60 niggles (no keylock, poor alarm system) I'm generally very pleased with it. I'm not replacing my p900 but it's nice to have something for a change, the 6600 feels well built, the screen is bright and clear, and the OS is reasonably fast and responsive.
The two main disadvantages for me are the battery, which is stupidly small for a smartphone and the rs-mmc, I would much rather have a standard rs-mmc and ideally an SD card reader like the Sendo X. I did try the Sendo X before I had the 6630 (only briefly) and I really liked some of the ideas they had with the phone, just a shame it suffered from too many software problems.
John
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fannypad
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...aside from a few S60 niggles (no keylock, poor alarm system)...
...The two main disadvantages for me are the battery, which is stupidly small for a smartphone and the rs-mmc, I would much rather have a standard rs-mmc and ideally an SD card reader like the Sendo X... |
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Dunno where all the misinformation about S60 phones not having a keylock comes from. The 6630's keys can be locked just like any other Nokia phone: "left softkey" followed by " * ".
If you are within a menu and want to lock the keys, just press the red end key to get back to the desktop then left softkey and *. Or if you want to stay in the menu, press the power button and scroll to Lock Keys.
As for poor alarm system, I take it you mean no multiple alarms. Here's an excellent tiny 10KB multiple alarm utility: http://home.tula.net/symbian/am/index.html
It's not freeware anymore ($5), but you can download the freeware version 1.0 with the same functions here: http://www.urbanbomb.co.uk/alarmmanager_1_0.sis
Poor battery life with the 6630 is usually caused by constant switching from 2G to 3G and back again. This drains power like nobody's business.
In later firmware versions (v3.45.11x) there's a menu option to switch to GSM mode only and never access 3G (Tools>Settings>Network Settings>Network Mode>GSM). This vastly increases battery life, some people report operation time going from 1 day to over 3 days.
But this option not present on older versions. All vodafone branded 6630's don't have this option as no new vodafone branded 6630 firmware exists.
There is, however, a solution in the form of Nokia's Field Test software. Have a look here for a clear guide and a link to download the app: http://nokiafree.org/forums/t72294/h/s.html
Believe me, the difference in battery life between 3G and 2G only is night and day. My 6630 lasts 3-4 days between charges, whereas in 3G mode it would only last a day max. |
johnmcl7
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I meant an automatic keylock, I am well aware of the manual keylock. I know there is a small utility to provide an automatic keylock but I can't believe Nokia don't have it as part of the OS.
I'm also well aware of the 2G/3G issue, my phone is never on 3G, the battery is still not great but given the phone has a good screen and small battery, I don't expect good batterylife.
Thank you for the link to the alarm program, I will take a look at it, sounds good.
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mario2002
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Wow today I've tried for the whole morning the 6630 ! If you are used to the sluggish P910 the 6630 is a dream.And the camera ! Not even comparable to the P910's . But the best was the little battery.Not only is small enough to fit in my wallet (back up) but lasted the whole morning (only dropped to a indicated half) On the 910 (Test it for a few days) the battery time is poor to say the least. And is cheap compared to any top of the range SE phones.I really wanted to change from Nokia to SE , but . . .
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johnmcl7
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Interesting...I find the P900 faster than the 6630, although the 6630 is generally quite fast, at times it seems to 'pause' when you have accessed a function or just going through the menus. It's very minor but I don't have the same on the P900, it's always fast to navigate and run apps from. Batterylife is incomparable, my P900 can easily last longer than the 6630 but then again the P900 doesn't have the 262k colour screen, so this may hurt the batterylife considerably.
Couldn't agree more with you on the P900 camera, why they bothered putting one on in the first place I don't know, the picture quality is so dire I never used it.
If I had neither phone, and was offered the choice, I would take the P900 each time, but having used UIQ for a while and not Series60, I'm enjoying the 6630, I'm disappointed SE didn't do more with the P910, if it had wireless ethernet I would have upgraded to it.
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mario2002
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Wireless (wifi) on a 3-4 watts/hour battery ? ? ? I don't think so. I am using Wifi on my laptop for guite a while now and even there I can see a difference when I run on the battery althou is 10x bigger ! ! ! Bluetooth is more suited for a cellphone.I belive the nokia 9500 has implemented Wifi with somewhat limited specs and success. I am running a bluetooth network (class 1) and for internet access is just fine.At around 250Kbps you could easily implement VoIP too :-) lets hope the new fuelcell battery will change the odds in Wifi's favour.
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Mrb 18
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@mario2002
Are you stupid or are you just making things up?
6630 has talktime upp to 6h and standby upp to 264h
and p910 has talktime upp to 13h and standby upp to 400h
so next time you put the 6630 ahead of the p910 in any particular area get the facts straight, ok!
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mario2002
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Buddy sory to have irritated you. Was not my intention at all ! I know about the figures claimed by the respective manufacturers, but the think is if I bluetooth link the cell to the laptop and gprs (laptop internet access) the P910 died on me after only about 5h while the 6630 showed about half battery after almost 4h of networking and heavy usage as I did with the P910 althou the 6630 was accessing the net much faster (edge compared to the usual gprs of the P 900) also there are quite a few posts complaining about the P910's battery time (right here on ESATO) Do a search if you don't believe me and see for yourself.Many greetings . Mario
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fannypad
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On 2005-02-08 03:29:57, Mrb 18 wrote:
@mario2002
Are you stupid or are you just making things up?
6630 has talktime upp to 6h and standby upp to 264h
and p910 has talktime upp to 13h and standby upp to 400h
so next time you put the 6630 ahead of the p910 in any particular area get the facts straight, ok!
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Manufacturer's figures and real-world performance are two totally different things, you should know that.
In my experience also, the 6630's battery life is greater than that of the P910.
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mario2002
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I think we've finally got competition for the 6630. And a mighty strong one too! The 6680 with its 2xcameras and implemented 3G video calls might just be the winner (when released).I hope the price is not going to be to high.
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