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scotsboyuk
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On 2005-01-06 06:21:44, kenx3000 wrote:
SE's V800 is released for Vodafone true but SE have no other flip type phones except Z500 ... just like Z600 and T630, perfect couple  .
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You already mention the Z600 after saying SE only have two clamshell handsets, the V800 and Z500, but there is also the Z1010.
With regards to your comments about 3G and EDGE, I must disagree. EDGE has almost no future in Western Europe, it is highly unlikely that Western European networks will implement EDGE as they have already invested huge sums of money in 3G. The Japanese and Koreans are already committed to 3G, and the U.S. is starting to implement 3G services too. This only leaves those markets where there isn't the demand for 3G at the moment, whether through lack of affordabilty on the part of the customer or because the networks don't have sufficient resources to implement it.
As I said previously, NEC have already launched a budget 3G handset in the UK, in fact they have released more than one budget handset, the NEC 338 and the NEC e228 . Motorola have also released a budget 3G handset, the C975, and I would imagine that other manufacturers will follow suit. You can have a look at the current budget 3G handsets here.
Whether one likes or dislikes 3G, it is almost certainly here to stay, in Western Europe, Japan and Korea at any rate.
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lor
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I don't think 3G will last, not once my kingdom starts using 4G... yes... then everyone will be jealous and want to be on 4G as well.. |
waja800
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Lol. Which kingdom is that?
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goldenface
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Where are these bloody new phones? |
bohdan
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I think we have to wait till 18.01
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scotsboyuk
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@waja800
I doubt he means any of the kingdoms, which make up the United Kingdom as we already use 3G and 4G is a long way off here.
@lor
Unless you live in Japan (not a kingdom), you are unlikely to see 4G for at least a decade, even if you do live in Japan, you will still be waiting for at least five to seven years. I would imagine that by that time most of the developed world will be using 3G as the newtworks start downgrading their 2.5G services and 3G has become more attractive to the average customer.
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@Scot,
Waja, Lor and Me live in Malaysia. 3G is just starting here, not oficially out yet, but due any month now from two different telco providers. There are some trials in some areas for a select lucky few. It'll be out any time soon.
We do have EDGE up and running for some time now already though.
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On 2005-01-05 16:07:52, Vlammetje wrote:
what  needs for that is a larger pool of operators offering 3G to the public though.
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would they realy shoudl focus on offering a product that covers the old and new...
like quadband gsm with 3g. that way everyone will benefit.
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scotsboyuk
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We don't have EDGE in Western Europe, 3G is being promoted here so the networks won't want to introduce EDGE too.
Do you all live in different kingdoms in Malayasia?
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@DragonEye
With respect that would only really be benefitial to those living in North America or those who travel there reguarly.
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kenx3000
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I understand scotsboyuk's point of view now. Thnx for making it clear to me now. But who in U.S. is moving to 3G? well T-Mobile won't be on for another year or two as Mobileburn said it before, but the only one left is mostly Cingular, but Cingular doesn't even support EDGE yet and 3G will be a very big step to go across. No offense, alot of people that uses phone in U.S. barely knows functions as we do here. They only Text messages, call and receive, take pictures, listen to music, and PTT(Nextel) which for me its more like basic use of phones so I think barely anyone would accept 3G network since they have no knowledge of technology as Europe and Asia market.
I got bored talking to friends that are like WHT? What's EDGE? What's GPRS? You can go on the internet with the phone? what's mp3 phones? which these questions bored me and annoys me so much. I think U.S. will most likely to be the last to move into 3G comparing to Europe and South East Asia market since Europe already has 3G and South East Asia is moving into 3G sooner than U.S.
I even see its pointless of having EDGE since they don't even know what the heck GPRS is. Rather throw it to Asia market than U.S. markets for now and later when its a big need then add it. |
FuricTrax
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A simple explaination of EDGE:
http://www.ericsson.com/technology/tech_articles/EDGE.shtml
So it is more of an intermediary technology?
As far as the US and 3G is concerned...they havent even sold the radio frequencies for 3G yet!
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scotsboyuk
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@kenx3000
Western Europe doesn't have EDGE either, but that is probably more to do with the fact that the networks won't want to promote a technology, which might detract from 3G.
The U.S. market is rather behind in terms of technology, but it is catching up and the state of mobile technology in the U.S. is much better than it used to be. Where the U.S. really lags behind is in services, both Europe and Asia, especially Japan and South Korea are introducing more and more mobile based services for customers.
There has been quite a bit of discussion on the state of the American mobile market in {url=http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=70318]this[/url] thread.
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Indiandawg
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Well reliance infocom in India provides 3g network and would love if SE V800 get released by them .
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@Scot
Waja and me live within walking distance of each other !  Lor, is abour an hours driving distance away.
Here we don't have kingdoms, we have different states 
Anyway, the operator who has EDGE here isn't planning for 3G anytime soon.
The two operators who are gonna promote 3G here in the next couple of months are major players and we Malaysians expect the service to cost and arm and a leg.
You see, in Europe, your phones are ruined by the branding crap, but u guys have service plans/tarrifs and you get the phones cheaper and the price you guys pay for the services are actually quite "reasonable"... Then you have that "upgrade thingy" where you extend your plan and get a new phone for cheaper/free or whatever? We don't have it here.
Well, here, ALL our phones are unlocked and we don't have any branding Voda or Cingular crap in our phones. It comes with the original firmware and functions the way its supposed to. Even if you do buy a phone from the operator, its slightly cheaper, but it'll be locked for about 1 year. Thats all. They don't mess with the firmware.
But when it comes to the telcos service itself... hahahah, that's a totally different story...
I wish we had flat rates to pay so we can send a certain number of SMSes a month or MMS... but nope, we are charged through our mouths and nosses. We don't get free sms/wap or anything...
The telcos seem complacent and don't want to fight each other.
Heck, we cant even keep our old number if we decide to switch operators... 
However lately, the war betweeen them has intensified... 
Good for us consumers I say. SMS prices have been falling... So are the call rates. Its a lot better than it was a couple of years back. And the government has passed a rulling that says that the users have a right to keep their old numbers should they wish to change operators. Of course there is a small fee involved I think it comes into effect latest by the end of 2005
If you asked me two years ago, I'd have said that you guys have it better, but lately, things have been looking up for us
I just wish that would release more EDGE phones soon... Or at least ONE more ... for the asian region... |
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