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brownjs
T68 gold
Joined: May 03, 2002
Posts: 222
From: scotland
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Posted: 2002-06-23 20:21
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send an email telling them you stole them from us and broke the copyright rules ,see how they reply than desided or not to take them to court
mhorton
T68 grey
Joined: Jan 13, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: UK
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Posted: 2002-06-23 22:56
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Wan**ers, Kick there arses. Laffen you should copyright the logos and ringtones,

kevin81
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Joined: Mar 12, 2002
Posts: 390
From: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: 2002-06-23 23:32
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Laffen: Here is included something that you may use to scare those loosers off. Enjoy

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3Business.com Limited:

We are intellectual property counsel to the site Esato.com. As you are well aware, Esato provides mobile-phone related services under the Esato name and service mark and owns and operates the website at http://www.esato.com. Our client's name, service mark and website are among its most valuable assets.

We have recently been made aware of your operation of one website http://www.mms3.com/gr_t68.php, that infringe our client's copy-rights in the Esato mark. Relevant information of your website are attached to the confirmation copy of this letter (Laffen: here you can include some of the logos and show them your text-string). We further understand that your website provides logos for SonyEricsson T68 mobile phones. Our client respects your right to do so--provided your websites do not contain any copied logos that are as a matter of fact, some other company's assets (and in this case, our client's). We must remind you that any such logos included on your website are actionable and can subject you to liability.

Regardless of your purported mission, your use of our client's T68 logos in connection with the operation of your website constitutes copy-right infringement. Quite simply, use of the Esato logos on your website in a commercial manner is a violation of our client's copy-right. It is quite evident from your website that you are profiting off of the Esato logos by offering them to the general public for a fee and using that particular section of your website to attract other customers to your company for your own commercial gain. For such infringement, you can be held liable for monetary damages, an injunction and our client's attorneys' fees.

On behalf of our client, we must insist that you immediately cease all further use of the Esato logos and remove the aforementioned part of your website. We further demand that you provide an accounting of the profits that you have received in connection with your operation of that particular section of your website.

Your swift and full cooperation would enable us to resolve this matter quickly and on an amicable basis. Please contact me as soon as possible, and no later than July xx, 2002, so that we may facilitate a prompt resolution of this matter.

Very truly yours,

Laffen (or the name of your attorney)

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This should scare them off a bit since it's a well-written and legally accurate letter. Other Esato users who have any legal expertise are welcomed to suggest any revisions or additions to the letter above. I really hope that Esato wins!!


[ This Message was edited by: kevin81 on 2002-06-23 22:32 ]
mhorton
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Joined: Jan 13, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: UK
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Posted: 2002-06-23 23:39
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Sounds good to me.
arroyootje
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Joined: Feb 01, 2002
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From: UK-Belgium-Azerbaijan
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Posted: 2002-06-24 20:24
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Yeah, send the letter, i think it's a bit dumb of them to sell T68 logos, when Esato isn't the only place you can get them completely free.....


Let's kick their ass!!!

Evilsummer
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Joined: Jan 16, 2002
Posts: 236
From: Gothenburg Sweden
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Posted: 2002-06-24 21:08
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@Laffen
They aperently like your logos...
If I were you i'd just send them a bill and charge whaterver they are charging for the pics.

Esato... my second home...
orang3
T68i
Joined: Mar 28, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: Never_never_Land
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Posted: 2002-06-24 21:13
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hmm... i guess you should place some of esato banner in their site and grab their customers,heheeh
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laffen
Sony Xperia Z5 Compact
Joined: Aug 07, 2001
Posts: > 500
From: Oslo, Norway
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Posted: 2003-03-08 18:36
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Finally found proof that they have downloaded the logos from the Esato site. It's a script located on their server. http://web2.server1mms3.com/data/ericsson/new/
In this directory you'll find a script called "get_img.sh", which fetch all images from the Esato site.
jplacson
Sony Xperia P
Joined: Apr 21, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: Philippines
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Posted: 2003-03-08 18:43
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why not embed a virus in an image??? hehehehehehehe!!! Auto-image grabber huh? grab a virus! Or post their IP in a hacker newsgroup.
Deltayoda
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Joined: Mar 03, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: Los Angeles, California
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Posted: 2003-03-09 02:18
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Weird. I don't understand why go to such great lengths to steal images for a phone? They aren't that hard to make. You don't exactly need to sit there for hours just for perfection on one small image. If such a company needs to steal stuff like this and then charge people for it, I find that pathetic. I can't believe they are still going on with this (For about 9 months) and I hope any money they end up making all goes to Esato.

I usually and mostly make my own images, either with a scanner, digital camera or what I can find on the internet (Crop & resize),which turn out great. Quick and easy.
fijbert
K550 Black
Joined: Dec 26, 2002
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From: Montreal / Beirut
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Posted: 2003-03-09 03:21
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@laffen
send them that letter, and ask for a settlement.. that shld also b good for keeping the website alive for a bit longer
and threaten to shut them down.
to hell with them...
I hope they choke on their sour grapes
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Deltayoda
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From: Los Angeles, California
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Posted: 2003-03-09 04:11
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Agreed!
jplacson
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Joined: Apr 21, 2002
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From: Philippines
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Posted: 2003-03-09 04:24
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Laffen, or anyone actually... would it be possible to get a hold of their "affiliate" mailing list?

Email their entire list, with this URL attached:
http://web2.server1mms3.com/data/ericsson/new/

As proof that these guys do NOT create their own material, they just steal.

And direct them all to Esato. And say you can offer more content at a lower price!

This message was posted from a P800 with a toaster

T68iFan
T68i mineral
Joined: Oct 18, 2002
Posts: 214
From: Los Angeles
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Posted: 2003-03-09 07:31
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Damn that pisses me off. There is nothing worse than others profiting from your work without your consent. Great idea to tag the images btw.
psikey
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Joined: Jan 31, 2002
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From: UK - South Yorkshire
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Posted: 2003-03-09 08:41
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I've been here a while now & have never even downloaded & ringtone or image.

What is important is the members, just like having mates with common interests all over the world who always help to solve problems usually with lots of humor

Laffen keeps the site looking proffesional & orderly & we make it the most important site by being here always ready to help each other and new members.

More than just a website, its a family.
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