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Merovingian
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From: Norway
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On 2004-08-18 17:17:30, Ayush wrote:
Hey..news update!Today another man was prononunced death sentence! He first killed and THEN raped a SIX yr old girl. Later he cut off her feet to steal the anklet  Now what do u say to that?? I think the sentence is corect. Only it shld be quickly carried out 
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He killed and raped an 6 year old girl? The guy should be shot on sight IMO.. It's sick 
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gelfen
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From: Melbourne, Australia
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death is too good a punishment for child-rapists (better to let them loose in the general prison population - see how long they last).
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On 2004-08-18 18:28:19, vckay wrote:
For all you enligtened souls out there , i would like you to ponder a certain fact:Hitler(the short little man who was responsible for the murder of 6 mil jews) would have had life if he had beenbrought before a european court today. he might even have entered an insanity plea and good scott free.
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yeah, scott free - except for the lifetime of incarceration in a mental institution, probably in restraints and under almost constant sedation.
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Merovingian
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From: Norway
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yeah, or they should loose their dick, and it should be cut off with an non sharp knife and their balls should be crushed with an large hammer
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methylated_spirit
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From: Bonnie Scotland
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It depends, if its something utterly horrific they should die, but by the same token, the legal (british and american, anyway) system is basically set by the bible, and the bible states you must not kill, does that apply to executing murderers too?
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Ayush
Joined: Sep 12, 2003
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From: Hyderabad, india
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I think its injustice. Many rich go scot free and the poor suffer. It isnt right to kill a man who has killed another to deter others from killing. Or law should be truly equal for ALL! Then they should be executed immadiatley and not allowed to linger in prison for years!
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plasmadog
Joined: May 06, 2004
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From: Beantown, India
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ayush,
the reason it takes so long.. in india is because of all the appeals process, right from the local courts to the supreme court. and the presidential pardon. it all takes a lot of time.
and, they say... the backlog at indian courts right now... would take 117 years to clear each and every case, without registering new ones!!
thats cos, a lot of people just litigate/petition on really small matters. therefore the bigger, more important cases stagnate cos they give equal importance to all cases.
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Ayush
Joined: Sep 12, 2003
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From: Hyderabad, india
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So death penalty should be done away with until matters are sorted. Even the britishers who introduced death penalty in India, have done away with it. It's barbaric. Instead the convicts should be engaged in socially useful work
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TheReverend
Joined: Jul 07, 2004
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From: Hungary
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Oh, no my friends, death penalty wasn't introduced by people, but by God as the extreme punishment for extreme crimes. You guys being so young have no idea of the pain caused to families by bastards like Dutroux and co. Yes, flawed legal systems like the US one where stupid judges make laws manipulated by ACLU type of morons, make people sick about the issue. It is a horrible but a necessary measure. God bless
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whizkidd
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If god created the law, only he should have the authority to execute it. Not mere mortals and corrupt police officials.
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Sammy_boy
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At the risk of going completely off topic I don't like the idea of some 'supreme being' having ultimate power over our destinies.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely, as I believe someone said.
I wish makind would drop the shackles of all these organised religions, be spiritual beings, believe in 'God' if you want to but in your own way, but not be constrained or limited by what some supposed 'leader' of their religion tells them to do. Once we take responsibility for our own actions and justice and stop palming them off onto some mythical supreme being we can start to evolve as a species, and hopefully stop 98% of all these petty wars and squabbles as a nice little bonus.
Rant over! 
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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TheReverend
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The author of Ben Hur believed the same, with some right points re imposed religion, untill he red the New Testament. After that he wrote his famous book. Have you ever red the N T? BTW self determination is just a deadly illusion. Ask those under dictatorial regims. God bless
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Sammy_boy
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I guess I have a problem with organised religion, which I'm guessing @thereverend is part of! I suspect that this would be a case of the irresistable force against the immovable object, neither of us will give way, so I'm not sure if a debate will be a good idea.
btw I've read parts of the NT - there's no denying that what's written in the bible and other religious texts provide an excellent blueprint for living life unselfishly and with care for others. Also, having holidayed on some of the Greek islands, where many people are still religious, people are a lot nicer to each other, there's still a sense of community, and there seems to be a lot less crime (I've seen scooters parked at the side of the road - with their keys still IN the ignition!!).
However, I do have a problem with 'supreme' beings, their existence, and this 'believe in me or you'll go straight to hell without collecting £200' mentality. Once we learn to look after ourselves as a species, without relying on outdated methods of control (i.e. religion, which is basically what it is - look at totalitarian religous-based regimes), we will have made a huge evolutionary leap forward.
Apologies for my rather atheist view there, I'm going to feel a bit of a prat if there really is a heaven!
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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TheReverend
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Most excellent friend, I'm by no means member of the 'organized' religious system. I'm just another sinner saved by Jesus, and a theology graduate because of my deep need to know Him. I attend a very small Calvary Chapel church in Hungary. Re 'evolution' guess what? I teach, write, and translate about biblical and scientific creationism! God bless
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absinthebri
Joined: Feb 11, 2004
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From: London, UK
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@ TheReverend Thank you for reminding us of G-d's Law; it's good to see a fellow Scripture reader. Perhaps you can clarify some other points that have been on my mind? My neighbour insists on working on the Sabbath. I know he has to be put to death (Exodus 35:2) but do I have to do it myself? Also Exodus 21:7 sanctions me selling my daughter in to slavery. Can you suggest a fair price to ask? Thanks.
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Sammy_boy
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@absinthe - re. selling your daughter into slavery, try Ebay mate, you can sell anything and everything there! 
@thereverend - looks like I guessed wrong! It also looks like you know your onions, I sadly have no such qualifications. I could probably take your phone apart, show you a few things in the night sky (I'm a very ameteur astronomer!), or tell you a bit about mental illness (I'm a student psychiatric nurse), but that's about my limit.
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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