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amnesia
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Posted: 2004-06-13 21:11
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my girlfriend bough an SO5 in Japan and ended her contract.

Thats it now, she has a dead phone that cant connect to any network. Its still a good Digital Camera though lol.
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Posted: 2004-06-13 21:15
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@ boba

As far as I know, it is...

I think one of the reasons that GSM is not as big here is that it was developped after CDMA and for large countries like Canada and the U.S. is that it costs a fortune to expand the network. With CDMA being well established already, I guess some companies feel like it's not worth it to switch to/develop GSM...
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Posted: 2004-06-13 21:15
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@amnesia cant decide if i should :-) or :-( . Anyway, is it a cdma or gsm? How is the fones menu? Jap and eng?

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Posted: 2004-06-13 22:45
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here in Romania, we have gsm and also cdma. they used to work tdma, switched to cdma now. and also in 450M. the choice you have on the cdma phone market is between 4 maybe 5 phones, hyunday or some other asian company. the coverage is really good, the handsets are cheap compared to gsm phones, and the costs of the calls inside the cdma network is like 1 cent/min. data transfers are faster and cheaper as well. the only drawback is that not many ppl use that provider, which means that you still have to pay a lot for calls outside the network. to give some numbers, the gsm market(made up of 2 providers, orange and connex-vodafone) holds well over 5 mil. customers, while the cdma is somewhere in the hundred thousands. and this is in a country that has a population of around 23 mil.
there are rumours and even promises that 3G technology will be implemented, and i assume that both gsm and cdma operators will have to upgrade their equipments as to satisfy the new demands, as i believe that UMTS is the next logical step, as the other technologies are getting old and can't keep up with new demands from the market, such as video-conference that is a function only for UMTS (by the way it means Universal Mobile Telecommunications System), or live video streaming from the internet.

also from what i've discovered, asian mobile market offers the most advanced gsm handsets and also UMTS ones, equiped with two cameras, over 1mil colours displays, etc. so, while north america is not the place to be for a mobile fan, asia is!
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Posted: 2004-06-13 23:06
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Interesting post! We in hungary dont have the 450 mh anymore.

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to be honest, it`s cheaper to dial-up a connection from ur laptop when you`re on the road with a cdma handset. u`ve got better signal clarity as well. and also harder to intercept and decode, since the signal is divided in diferrent parts (CDMA = Code Division Multiple Access). so i guess after all as long as there are customers using it and also new ones .. it will stand. they do have attractive solutions for communications inside a closed user group, like free calls, etc.

off-topic:what operators are there in hungary? do they offer good prices on handsets? out here orange is only offering low-end products at prices sky high, in the range of 50-100E.

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Posted: 2004-06-14 09:50
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Check: www.t-mobile.hu , www.pannongsm.hu , www.vodafone.hu they support english too. 1 euro = 245 hungarian forint, in case u wanna compare the prices.

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Posted: 2004-06-14 09:56
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We have the same cdma net here in russia-vladivostok. You bring them nosim phone and they program it. Then it costs 30 for unlimeted calls. But they don't even have sms.

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Posted: 2004-06-14 15:42
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Once we had in hungary the same solutions too. In case sms, our 450 mh system didnt support it.

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Posted: 2004-06-14 16:33
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re:yuji's post

Yeah, I forgot to mention...

When it comes to CDMA, you have to be using digital or 1X technology for sms...the analog network doesnt support much besides phone calls...

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Posted: 2004-06-14 16:59
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@Boba, the quality of cdma network around me is not good. The cdma handsets are specially re-designed for the market here because of the identity card UIM, but no attractive ones. I choose gsm, the European standards.

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Posted: 2004-06-14 18:28
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@wapt thx. What about /// cdma fones there? In the us are a plenty of them.

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Posted: 2004-06-14 18:56
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Seems to be out of topic.:-) Sorry, no Ericsson/SE cdma phones here. The main cdma phone suppliers are Korea and US companies, as well as local manufactures. As I know, Sony Ericsson has also left North America cdma phone market. They focus on gsm, umts and japan phone market only.

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Posted: 2004-06-14 19:28
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Sorry, bit offtopic. I liked those old cdma /// with the weird aerial on 388. Back to biz. Why was impossible to send sms on cdma system?

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Posted: 2004-06-16 17:51
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I guess it is not too difficult to implement SMS service on cdma system, just need investment. We have SMS on cdma here. Sending cross system is also possible.

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