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kasei
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Posted: 2004-04-25 21:48
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K700 has java 3d

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Arne Anka
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Posted: 2004-04-26 01:01
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Don't know what phones rog concider revolutionary, but K700 is indeed a sexy little bugger
and that's enough for most of us. Although I don't need a new phone, I'm tempted to buy one anyway.

A new preview below.

http://www.mobileburn.com/story.jsp?Id=716&source=HOMETOP


soulseek
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Posted: 2004-04-26 02:41
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arne anka ., thanx for the link!

PERFECT review..

this review makes me buy the phone even more!!

the changes in the UI but also the new software improvements are things ive been waiting for years!!!!

the phone is also beautiful, small, and that screen looks amazing!!! really good resolution, and BIG!
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Posted: 2004-04-26 04:39
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Don't be too hard on jplacson. it just that he's coming from a really different frame of reference: P800.
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Posted: 2004-04-26 06:03
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Test using k7 at se ph

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rog
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Posted: 2004-04-26 08:15
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On 2004-04-26 01:01:07, Arne Anka wrote:
Don't know what phones rog concider revolutionary, but K700 is indeed a sexy little bugger
and that's enough for most of us.



100% agree! I'll also go and get this cuty.
Revolutionary would be a built-in Memory Stick and a Megapixel Cam (additional to the current features of K700i), where the size and weight of the phone is the same as K700 is now. That would be revolutionary! Don't you think so?

CHeers,
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Posted: 2004-04-26 08:36
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When t610 came out it didnt have anything new but it had lots of those things you wont find togheter in one phone so i think se is trying to do the same thing with k700.
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Posted: 2004-04-26 08:48
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The fashion show was in the NBC tent if i'm not mistaken. I did see pictures of models holding the K700 in the newspaper. The back side is what really sets it apart from the rest, The front is too ordinary.
jplacson
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Posted: 2004-04-26 09:06
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Hehehe...seems I stirred a hornet's nest!

I'm actually flattered that a lot of people read what I wrote...even the ones who didn't like what I said.

(This is not the first time I've reviewed an SE product, my initial post on the P800 was taken by 'Allaboutsymbian.com' as their initial P800 review as well)

To Jason & McKinley, hehehe..no I'm not pulling anyone's leg.. like I wrote, these are MY 1st impressions of the K700. The 3-5ms is just an estimate... I can't really convey the sense of lag I felt with the phone in any other way. I play the guitar as a hobby, and use digital delay effects a lot. I can notice 10ms differences pretty well, and the K700 delay was SHORTER than 10ms... so I just threw out a number. 10ms is a pretty long delay actually, you can already hear the difference, all the more SEE it. Just to give you a real world peg, 10ms is more or less the time it takes for your next finger to hit the table when you rap your fingers on a surface.

And just as a disclaimer: I didn't have the K700 hooked up to some atomic clock to measure the menu speed! lol ... this is just what I noticed about it.

And like I said in my first post, I like the K700... I just wasn't floored by it. Probably due to the fact that I'm coming from the P-series. If I had a T610/630, I'd probably have found this phone a whole lot cooler than I did.

Going back to the menu speed... like I said in a previous post as well, T610/630 users may not even notice the lag I did... but I did notice a lag coming from the P800. And my MAIN gripe is more with the fact that menu speed is still an issue with SE! WTF! The menu response time shouldn't even be in a review at all!!! It's 2004!!!! That menu lag should've died when Ericsson and Sony merged! (It shouldn't have appeared in the first place)

It's kinda like buying a 2004 Porsche 911 GT3 with the speedometer gauge light busted... none of that hampers the functionality of the car.. it's just annoying.

We're all SE fans here... I've never wanted to use anything else but Ericsson/SE phones. But it would be pointless to just say that everything from Ericsson/SE is perfect, cuz it simply isn't. You want cutting edge technology, you have to live with the quirks. And my purpose is to let people know what I experienced with the new K700... great features, good phone, menu lag is still there... would I buy one to replace my P800? No. Would I buy one as a 2nd phone to my P800? Maybe, tied with the T610/630. Would I buy one as an upgrade if I only had a T610/630? Yes. Would I buy one if I didn't have a phone? Yes.
jplacson
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Posted: 2004-04-26 09:17
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alfa, yes... the backs of the new SE phones seem to be patterned after the Sony Cybershot DCU-10/20 that are being phased out.

It's a good move actually, you don't look like you're holding a phone anymore when you take photos... and the design is horizontally oriented so it makes the phone look like a camera when held in "photo mode"

It's like the Transformers! HAHAHAHA!

OT:I find the SE TV ads quite cool... they are so disctinctly Japanese, and yet so Europeanly chic. Very unique blend. Hehehehe.
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Posted: 2004-04-26 09:21
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#jplacson

I agree

Though I am very much in love with this phone and definately is getting one as an upgrade to my T610 - I also noticed in the videos that menuresponsetime didnt seem to have improved. Its not an issue for me personally, I've allways been happy with my T610 despite the menuresponsetime - but I agree that since this is the 3rd version of this UI S//E should have looked into improving the speed. Especially if they want to catch some previous Nokia users that are used to speedier menus and sms in their Nokias.

But like I said - for me personally its not an issue at all.
Im so slow when writing sms anyways that the T610 has no problems keeping up with me - and Im not in that big a hurry that I cant wait 4ms for the menu to react either
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Posted: 2004-04-26 09:25
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i think the changing face of the "camera side" of mobiles (and not just ) is in part a response to privacy fears. if you hold up a phone and the back is distinctive, at least those around might see the possibility of you taking a photo.
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Posted: 2004-04-26 09:35
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it has lags...
32mb of space and it plays mp3
the screen is clear.. funny, when i took a pic, and click send- it goes straight to MMS... is it really like that? coz on my P8/P9, it let me choose if i want to send via ir, bt, mms or email..
we need the earplug for the radio to turn on..

tested a proto... 04w08 [addsig]
jplacson
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Posted: 2004-04-26 09:41
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Spawn, the great Ericsson/SE lag has been there since 1999 with the T28s!!!! It's present in ALL Ericsson/SE phones since then except for the PDA family members... R380, P800/900

The T39 and R520 ALMOST got rid of it... and the T68i hid it pretty well... but it seems to be coming back. :s

Yes, I agree that the lag isn't really in issue with most people. It just annoys me that they haven't even tried to get rid of it since 1999.

I'll probably never go back to a traditional smartphone anymore, I've found happiness in their hybrids. Hehehehe... but that's just me... and even with the P-series, there's ALWAYS room for improvement!
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Posted: 2004-04-26 11:37
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On 2004-04-26 09:41:13, jplacson wrote:
Spawn, the great Ericsson/SE lag has been there since 1999 with the T28s!!!! It's present in ALL Ericsson/SE phones since then except for the PDA family members... R380, P800/900

The T39 and R520 ALMOST got rid of it... and the T68i hid it pretty well... but it seems to be coming back. :s

Yes, I agree that the lag isn't really in issue with most people. It just annoys me that they haven't even tried to get rid of it since 1999.

I'll probably never go back to a traditional smartphone anymore, I've found happiness in their hybrids. Hehehehe... but that's just me... and even with the P-series, there's ALWAYS room for improvement!




T68i or m did defintely not hide the lag to well.
T610/630/Z600 are all way faster than T68i.
My experience with K700 is not the same as yours regarding menu speed.
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