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Does anyone actually like their P1? Mine is horrible |
iksplusipsilon
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Finally, civilised and smart discussion... :-) @AD You are spot on as far as I am concerned !
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koto
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My P1 is so good that I decided to keep it until 2009. Only if P5 comes with improved procesor maybe I change my mind but for now P1 works like a charm. I started to create power point presentations on it (with a new quick office), watch you tube (fantastic), and do every business task I need (with P5 new procesor I would expect more speed and handle of much larger files), so there is no point to go to wm or anything else (Nokia is out of question as their flagship is mere multimedia phone). |
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On 2008-05-27 19:16:51, AD wrote:
On 2008-05-27 18:16:00, 701 wrote:
Wrong world pal:)
No offence but I have to say that sounds like the very defeatest, led by the nose attitude that lazy manufacturers and developers are counting on ...
With the P1, however, I think Nipsen's hit the nail on the head by saying that it wouldn't take much to turn the platform around in terms of viability, underpowered though it is in my opinion 
You can call me a fantacist if you like, but without dreamers we wouldn't have any of the technology that's so ubiquitous today...
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@AD:none taken.That's your point. I didn't give up on hope and I have to say, sometimes, I am a dreamer, too.But then,I wake up: I'm realist, AD> And I look around and I see how stuff works. The designers want one thing, they advance the project to management which cuts off half of the features because or the marketing, margins, profits and economics AND engineering. The, from what's left of the product goes to engineers where the whole products gets another cut. And so on...
I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.
@Nipsen: and still, they don't do it.Did you ever wonder why?It might me because the management doesn't know how important these bugs are and what happens to the product?Or maybe cuz only 20% of the customers are like us,power-users? Or maybe cuz the money is so tight that they can't (don't want) sustain the cost? Whatever the reason, it's not done because the product works. P990i didn't and they discontinued it. Unfortunately,this is how it works.
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hosehead
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On 2008-05-27 17:37:58, myth® wrote:
On 2008-05-27 12:26:07, hosehead wrote:
And yes, it has the latest firmware.
...which is ?
GW or branded version ?
R9K009
Non-Branded
Well it appears that I am in the minority here with so many people happy with their P1. This makes me believe that there might be a problem with my particular set up. I don't know how people can say their phone is fast though. it takes over 7 seconds to launch messaging on a freshly booted machine with no other apps running. There is no feedback either so you really aren't sure if the app launched or not.
But the one thing that I still disagree with is when people claim the OS doesn't suck. It does. Example: sometimes the "close" button is the return arrow at the top right. sometimes it's a little "x". sometimes it's a "done" soft button. sometimes something else. From a user standpoint, this inconsistency leads to errors and/or slowed use. This type of inconsistency is all throughout the OS and it is not good for the user. |
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Well it appears that I am in the minority here with so many people happy with their P1. This makes me believe that there might be a problem with my particular set up. I don't know how people can say their phone is fast though. it takes over 7 seconds to launch messaging on a freshly booted machine with no other apps running. There is no feedback either so you really aren't sure if the app launched or not.
Just made a test.Mine starts completely in 4 seconds but I have: 398 sms in Inbox and 293 in Sent, 3 separate e-mail accounts: Gmail hold 4 emails in inbox and some tens in Sent, Y! something like that too and Sync Folder 0. Which satisfies me. But why don't you keep you messaging in background all the time? You have lots of memory left!
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myth®
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@hosehead
R9K009 is your phone sw version which is irrelevant.
When we talk about fw versions we always refer to the pda/organizer version, and yes yours is R6G04 (the latest).
And in order to check if you have a version which is customized for your country or by your operator, you have to check the CDA.
All this information is located in the same place:
On your standby screen go to More > Status.
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AD
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@701 
I am fully aware that in order to 'productize' a design concept in a capitalist market, it has to go through several lavers of filtering, some would say 'refinement' others 'watering down', in order to satisfy the final decision makers (generally accountants at heart). I do, however , think that even such a structure can be infused with a culture of excellence rather than one of adequacy. After all, there are already prime examples of this working succesfuly (Ferrari, Bang & Oluffsen, Dyson, Rolls Royce, Apple, et al). I totaly agree that the market for high end smartphone is truly limited to busy buisiness bodys & gadget fanatics, so let's have a truly premiere product that reallisticaly reflects the state of the art.
I for one would hapily pay a premium for a device that came with such a caveat. |
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Hi just want to add that having used a P990i and never had problems with it even during calls only thing it restarted after a week or so which was fine by me i was going to get P1i but upon hearing the new Paris P5? What ever its called is going to be around euro 350-400 i am thinking of getting that instead after 3 or 4 months of its sale which means christmas time 
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arvinlad
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On 2008-05-27 17:50:02, RLP06 wrote:
I want it like the rest of my sony ericsson phones.
I want it on silent so I can see if I get missed calls in the morning, but I want my alarm to wake me up.... seriously, if I don't want it to wake me up... I wouldn't bother setting an alarm... I think alarms should override silent mode... it does on ALL regular SE phones... So i think it is a flaw...
Sorry I wasn't sure if you were joking or not
You do know that this phone has 4 different volume controls???
Multimedia
Alarms
Ringtone
Message alerts
AND individual on/off for vibrating alert for every option.
You MUST be able to tailor it so that you get whatever sounds/vibrations you want and to silence those you don't want 
Top left hand corner of screen - little down arrow --> Menu of:
New
Connections
Volume
Time
Lock keys
HTH
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RLP06
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@arvinlad, thanks for the advice...
I actually sold mine, because of the alarm problem and also because it didn't have 850 band (I had this phone when I lived in North America). Now that I've moved to the UK, maybe I'll pick one up again if I can get it cheap |
arvinlad
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@ RLP06 - Glad I could help - welcome back to the fold
I really do think these devices are amazing - I was enthusing to a mate of mine who was contemplating getting a G900 and showing him all the stuff and mods that I have loaded on mine... That same evening I got an email from him - he'd just bought one on ebay for £135 including TomTom6 and GPS unit  - what an awesome deal!
I can't believe people go out and buy 'lesser' phones
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Well it appears that I am in the minority here with so many people happy with their P1. This makes me believe that there might be a problem with my particular set up. I don't know how people can say their phone is fast though. it takes over 7 seconds to launch messaging on a freshly booted machine with no other apps running. There is no feedback either so you really aren't sure if the app launched or not.
Well, install "Fastcall", or map the @ button on the side to the task- manager. And use it to switch between programs. It's pretty robust. Only hangs I've had so far because of this was when leaving a coreplayer youtube stream running in the background once.
Another thing that helps a bit is to use the drop- down menu on the standby screen to go to the inboxes and so on. Basically, it's two clicks for a new message, instead of three from the drop- down menu.. and then waiting all day.
But the one thing that I still disagree with is when people claim the OS doesn't suck. It does. Example: sometimes the "close" button is the return arrow at the top right. sometimes it's a little "x". sometimes it's a "done" soft button. sometimes something else. From a user standpoint, this inconsistency leads to errors and/or slowed use. This type of inconsistency is all throughout the OS and it is not good for the user.
That's just the UI. And they chose a back arrow to drop programs into the background (unlike WM, where you have a cross for about the same function - something they've been wrestling with for a long while, arguing that "Windows should take care of the memory handling, not the user", and so on. And the cross apparently makes more sense to some).
But it's skinnable, so you can get anything you want for the "back" in the program area. And then skin the smaller "close" one in the dialog- boxes to an arrow as well. Most themes have some sort of combination, though, and that's... I use a theme with back- arrows only. The "continue" boxes you have to push done on are supposed to be used when you get different alerts and so on that can't be canceled.
As for the programs using different dialogues, and then keep dropping the wrong functions into the soft- button setup - that's up to the programmer of the apps. Example - the notifications for new sms and alarms are supposed to have different priorities, so they'll show up in order, and so on. And one of them times out, the other has to be pushed. Which somehow always tends to cause some sort of problem - apparently everyone has had some sort of trouble when getting an sms right before an alarm goes off. And I don't think anyone with a working UIQ phone enable those popup alerts. But that's a problem with the implementation - there's no real problem actually making the sms- alerts drop off after a few minutes, instead of leaving the notifications up so that they have to be replaced by some hardcoded routine that kills the wrong notification, and so on..
But I don't know. I have tried a WM device, so I probably shouldn't complain.
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Dogmann
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Hi all
Well i hope most of you are sitting down as we don't won't any accidents.
But i agree with Ares when he says
"nokia does not make anything like it (i want qwerty + touch screen),"
As that is 100% correct they currently don't and it looks like their first Touch Screen will be a Multimedia device not a business focused one.
I used and loved UIQ all the way to UIQ3 but sorry on launch that was rubbish and unlike some waiting the best part of a year for it to reach where it should of been on launch wasn't for me.
The only problem i have still with UIQ is the fact it hasn't been able to reach it's potential and doesn't offer me the hardware and support i want. Now that really is the only problem i have with it and until such time as it does have the hardware and support i want it there is just nothing to choose from the UIQ range.
I have also learned much to my surprise over the last two years that a touch screen just isn't as important to me as i once thought. I am not saying it doesn't have to be for anyone else but for me it just isn't any longer.
@Koto
Please you must realise by now that the N series is multimedia focused and that E series is business focused to suggest that all Nokia's are multimedia focused is just a joke. My E90 handles any business task you care to through at it and it's large 4" screen is unbeatable for working on Doc's, Web browsing or even watching multimedia. You may not like S60 or the fact it lacks a touchscreen but to suggest it is just for multimedia is just without foundation please get real.
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ares
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On 2008-05-27 17:53:10, myth® wrote:
On 2008-05-27 17:49:34, ares wrote:
nokia does not make anything like it (i want qwerty + touch screen)
So when will Marc drop in ?
Place your bets..
almost 24h...sorry Marc, had to do it
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drgopoos
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i like p1i , compared to p990i .
But i cant stand SE anymore . i am so pissed off at their pc suite.
I cant understand why after all these years they can fix the PC suite.
I loved n95-8gb , just for the good pc sync. Even its bluetooth was so perfect. The moment i stepped into my room , my pc and handset are sync'd
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