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CH4 Dispatches (19/05/2008) In Gods name. |
fatreg
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On 2008-05-22 21:33:06, badassmam wrote:
The religion doesn't cause war, that implies that my religion dissed your religion so lets go to war.
West Bank, Gaza, Jerusalem anyone?
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Bonovox
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Im from an Irish catholic family though i dont go to church much these days cos of busy life. But i do pray and deep down i dont believe in any particular religion. I believe their is some sort of afterlife and believe that WE ARE ALL ONE RACE WHICH IS THE HUMAN RACE AND WE WERE ALL PUT HERE ON THE SAME PLANET. I BELIEVE WE ARE ALL PROBABLY GOING TO GO TO THE SAME PLACE BUT WE ARE JUST NOT MEANT TO KNOW BEFORE WE DIE. I believe in something but think all religions are just man made. Why would we all be put on the same planet as the same human race but all have different gods. |
KingBooker5
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On 2008-05-22 22:31:05, fatreg wrote:
On 2008-05-22 21:33:06, badassmam wrote:
The religion doesn't cause war, that implies that my religion dissed your religion so lets go to war.
West Bank, Gaza, Jerusalem anyone?
Fatreg, no one is saying there has never been wars over religion, but my point is, religion has kept a balance and made the world much more stable than what it would be with out it |
themarques
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On 2008-05-22 22:31:05, fatreg wrote:
On 2008-05-22 21:33:06, badassmam wrote:
The religion doesn't cause war, that implies that my religion dissed your religion so lets go to war.
West Bank, Gaza, Jerusalem anyone?
Actually if you really go back in relation to this war and how it started, was because the Egyptian closure of the Strait of Tiran to Israeli shipping in 1946 I believe.
Its gone on for so long media has made up stories yeah throw in religion to spice it up be that was not the cause. This has been going on for nearing 62 years man, I think alot of them have forgotten what they fighting about its just become second nature and war can affect the minds of people (Vietnam)
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Bonovox
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Has anyone just seen the news. 22 year old white man arrested in The West Country of all places in Exeter for setting off a device in a restaurant. He had been brainwashed by radicals and he was white. Whats going on in this world man. Never expected it to happen in Devon of all places. |
fatreg
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^^ ermm it all started after we gave up occupation in whenever it was and made Israel it's own country....
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KingBooker5
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On 2008-05-22 23:12:10, fatreg wrote:
^^ ermm it all started after we gave up occupation in whenever it was and made Israel it's own country....
What did that have to do with religion though?
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fatreg
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Because contained with Israel is Jerusalem, and Christians believe it's their spiritual home and Muslims also believe the same...
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badassmam
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Fatreg
Muslims owned the land from many years before Isreal came into existance. The land was hijacked illegally and has been supported by the West. Jews, Christians and Muslims were living there for many years in peace because the land is significant to all three religions. It was never an issue. A lot of Muslims see this as a religious war because they are desperate for help from the fellow Muslims i.e. Saudi, Egypt etc. who could easily stop this. Muslims have a duty to help everyone from China to the person who simply needs directions. Palestinians and in a desperate situation.
The disaster in China was natural so could not be avoided, but the Palestine problem is man made and after the 60 years of slaughter and massacre, God is their only refuge and if He can make them happy for even a minute, so be it.
Bonovox
If we are predestined to all go to the same place after death (I assume Heaven from your comment), people knowing that fact would do whatever they felt like i.e. murder, rape etc. If you know that you are not going to be punished for a sin, you will sin all day long. The fear of God and punishment is why the world is still in one piece. |
Yoruichi
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basically everyones missing the point... it doesnt matter as to race, religion, politics, sexual preference etc. everyone has hopes, fears, dreams, thoughts, feelings .. and is human regardless. yet people fail to comprehend that and engage in pointless fighting and senseless slaughter of those who are "different" . as to what christianity has given the world lets see-the crusades , the inquisition the war in the mid east, censorship |
Yoruichi
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hatred, bigotry , corruption, all in the name of "god" . used to justify suppress and slaughter those who disagree with the narrow primitive view of religion and its adherants. will say one last thing that have found to be true if need help muslims will help whereas christians will do nothing to help when people need help learned from experience.
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Bonovox
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What a complete crock of s**t you just said. What really gets me is generally i got nothing against a muslim but some slag off the west and yet they live their lives as westerners and do everything we do. Hypocrites. |
themarques
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I dont think anyone is missing the point, but if we have to get down to the true fact of things as people try and make it out to be lets take homosexuality for instance.
Ok this is going to get a tad bit graphic, and apologies to any gay men who might find this comment offensive.
Further to my post earlier where the bible states another man should not lay with another, for good reason I believe.
I am sure any gay man will tell you that they need to undergo regular checks on the rectum as the anal wall is not built for (lets be honest) for intercourse. So you will find that a few of them begin to suffer from flatulence do to the muscles of the anus not been able to hold up so well after a while.
And if you think I am lying please check with your health care worker when ever you go get next checked out (which every man and woman should do regularly anyway).
So thus been said if anal sex was meant to be normal would the body be reacting in such a way?
Once again not meant to cause offence but its just to put a question out there.
And finally it couldn't have been that the anal passage was meant to be used as a form of "pleasure" so to speak as this is also the passage for the bodies most deadly bacteria. I am sure I don't need to go any further into this.
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Yoruichi
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just stating what found to be true. after losing everything in a disaster went and asked help at several churches of the good christians - got told sorry your not a member of our church.. sorry your not christian we cant help you.. went and asked help of muslims and was given help without the nonsense and questions of the good christians. and fyi am a westerner but left to live in se asia after katrina and getting no damn help.
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themarques
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On 2008-05-23 02:09:06, Yoruichi wrote:
just stating what found to be true. after losing everything in a disaster went and asked help at several churches of the good christians - got told sorry your not a member of our church.. sorry your not christian we cant help you.. went and asked help of muslims and was given help without the nonsense and questions of the good christians. and fyi am a westerner but left to live in se asia after katrina and getting no damn help.
Sorry to hear about your loss, but if you dont mind me asking were you actually a memeber of a church before? what happened to your church? and if you were not a member what made you turn to the church in the first place?
Were the churches not also full to capacity by this time? judging by the size of Mosque's and Churches, am I right in saying they are normally larger?
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