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Supa_Fly
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On 2008-04-26 22:40:25, hgautam wrote:
@Prom1
Sorry bro but I do not agree with your points... And what is this "lackluster petition without research"??? Do you think we all here are mad or stupid??? Rather it seems you haven't done enough research, or even seen pics from i-mobile 902... 
Answers for just a few of your points:
On 2008-04-26 21:57:06, Prom1 wrote:
* CCD does NOT gaurantee a better image in camera phones under 10MP.
In camera phones, it sure does... We all agree here... 
* CCD adds more weight and SIZE to the thickness of a phone
Ofcourse, K850, G800, N82, etc. are just so slim??? WOW??? Right???
Come on dude, CCD is not that heavy or big or thick as you think...
Both SE S700 and W900 are 24mm thick and guess what??? S700 has a CCD lens and W900 doesn't... Also, S700 weights 137 g and W900 weights 148 g... So W900 is as thick as S700 and more heavier but still doesn't have a CCD lens??? What's the reason??? 
Here are links for spec:
S700 - http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]ecifications/s700i?cc=in&lc=en
W900 - http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]ecifications/w900i?cc=in&lc=en
So your point that CCD is big, thick and heavy is not so right...
Also, CCD is not so costly either, i-mobile 902 aint't that costly... Isn't that proof enough??? How much of a cost would a CCD add???
I am more concerned about quality of pictures in a Cybershot branded phone than anything else... It's SE who's at loss and they are not only loosing their own image but also Sony's and Cybershot brand... And I am not saying it, this is what is actually happening and now even average people have realised this... The same is happening with even Walkman phones... 
Are these points enough or do you need to be explained further???
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Sorry hgautam; but you have not made your point clear nor decisive enough. Its ok not to agree - but sharing points on either side of the table helps in understanding & maybe even to your own cause with this petition. If you re-read my post I was not SIMPLY talking of size of CCD cameras vs CMOS ... it was just 1 of my points. Please reread and NOT take my points out of context.
The N82 WON the TIPA award WITH CMOS sensor NOT CCD. And everyone here can agree its pictures in most if not ALL situations are BETTER than the K850i. This is just a chaulk up to my point being valid that a CCD sensor alone will NOT gaurantee better quality pictures in a cam phone. You however seem to think it will, along with the thread host. I stated more than several posts that would "enhance" any type of sensor in use, something many here are choosing to ignore or not take the time to post what CAN improve either sensor of choice for quality pictures.
Comparing the size of 2 very old phones in thickness is not enough to prove that CCD's are not large vs CMOS. Both the S700/710 & W900 are HUGE in comparison.
Size comparisons:
S700 - 107 x 49 x 24 mm, 137 g, (CCD sensor, S710 both SE's ONLY CCD phone)
S710 - 107.5 x 49 x 24.5 mm, 137g (a N.American version of the S700)
W810 - 100 x 46 x 19.5 mm, 99g (CMOS sensor)
K750 - 100 x 46 x 20.5 mm, 99g (CMOS sensor)
W900 - 109.0 x 49.0 x 24.0 mm (CMOS sensor, btw)
K800 - 105 x 47 x 22 mm (CMOS Sensor) that lens cover added to size.
K810 - 106.0 x 48.0 x 17.0 mm (CMOS) Lens cover change reduced size!
K850 - 102 x 48 x 17 mm, 118g (CMOS)
C702 - 106.0 x 48.0 x 16.0 mm, 105g (CMOS)
C902 - 108 x 49 x 10.5 mm, 107g (CMOS) - 14mm THINNER thats just over 1INCH!
Even though still 2mm thinner by minimum to 14mm (either depending on case design, or  's lack of willingness to go thinner in Candybar style phones for Cybershot branding) its STILL thinner. Now many will say the S700/710 was hampared by its design making it simply thicker. Anyone have the thickness of the i-mobile 902 phone? Its also candybar in design. Hey, wait a minute, lets not just limit it to the 2year old phone here (that mobile-review article was Published — 13 November 2006), but with other CCD cam phones. Stop comparing phones of 2+yrs older in size & features compared to the same for non CCD of the same period.
Other 5MP camera phones: Samsung U900 SOul, G600, Nokia N82, N95 (all versions), N96, and a few others are all CMOS sensor phones. Unless I'm mistaken. Can anyone still come up to my challenge of a CCD camera phone in production within the past year that offers the same thickness? I don't know of the Sharp 904SH or similar phones use CMOS/CCD sensors though. Wait a minute, the Sharp 901SH has 5MP camera with 3x Optical Zoom. Its size is: 106 x 50 x 24mm, 139g. Its a flip phone but its still LARGE; I'll bet if you combine all chipsets on 1 single motherboard it'll be slightly thicker. IF you disagree, then show me a Samsung CCD phone in candybar offering same or similar features in camera - even a 3.2MP model and compare size??
As far as I'm aware, the K750i & W810i BOTH offered incredible pictures; mainly better than the S700! Not initially for the K750, but as production weeks progressed it did. Take a look at the photos in the "Post your K750i pictures, videos here" thread, and compare them to the S700 picture thread, as well as the massive appreciation of each.
So, although you and others in this thread disagree, my points are still valid and based on facts, not emotion.
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On 2008-04-26 21:57:06, Prom1 wrote:
* CCD does NOT gaurantee a better image in camera phones under 10MP.
That's an odd statement. Have you seen any camera phones with cameras at or above 10 MP? Do you have the source for this information? CCD is more sensitive than CMOS. Compare IMX020, the CMOS sensor in the K850i with ICX495, i-mobile 902's CCD sensor (also used in several 5 MP P&S cameras!). Take note of the specs on the second page in both PDFs. See the sensitivity data? Do you see that the ICX495 is three times more sensitive than the IMX020? Do you still think that this has no impact on photo quality?
Have a look at the i-mobile 902 photos we have posted here, feel free to look at the photos at full size to see the lack of noise. And then compare with what you can produce with your K850i... Ask yourself, which camera phone produces photos that still looks good when printed at A4 (8x10")? Which of these camera phones would you use if you were to shoot some good low light shots and didn't have access to a proper digicam?
* CCD adds more weight and SIZE to the thickness of a phone: that "I-mobile 902" phone which I cannot even see the specs on dimensions on gsmarena.com is HUGE in the link at (http://www.mobile-review.com/review/imobile-902-en.shtml)! Its thickness surely based on the CCD module alone
The i-mobile 902 is almost exactly the same size as the K850i, only half a millimeter thicker ( that's 1/50" for you people using US units). And the weight of the i-mobile 902 is 100 grams. What is the weight of the K850i?
On 2008-04-27 03:57:27, Prom1 wrote:
IF you disagree, then show me a Samsung CCD phone in candybar offering same or similar features in camera - even a 3.2MP model and compare size??
Not candybar but clamshell: Samsung Z710: size 96.7 x 47.5 x 20.5 mm and weight is 108 grams. SE only has one clamshell with a 3MP camera, the W980 and it's size is 92 x 46 x 16.9 mm and weight 100 grams. I would assume that CCD would add to thickness and not length nor width. The Z710 is less than 4 mm thicker and 8 grams heavier. Not a HUGE difference I would say. I would definitely take the risk of developing a hernia by carrying an 8 grams heavier phone in my pocket if it takes better photos. Looking at the Z710, I would assume that the difference in weight is due to the design of the display and how it not only does fold up but also can be turned around:
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On 2008-04-27 01:54:16, EddieAdams wrote:
On 2008-04-26 23:43:49, A L 3 X wrote:
i'm sorry.....but why the f**k are we having a petition for what a company puts into their mobile phones? I know I sound like an eco-mentalist here but I think there are more important things in our lives to worry about and in the world such as people starving in Africa yet all you guys think about is what frigging sensor is put in a camera?
Meh..........
I'm sure you've made huge contributions to fight hunger  and you lose sleep every night thinking about those kids on the info-mercials. This is a cell-phone forum dedicated primarily to SE. What are you doing with a cell phone? Do you know how many mouths you could feed?!?!? Add in your monthly bill and you're taking care of a whole village! You and Sally Struthers could solve the worlds hunger issue together.
I've already said I havent....apart from contributing to buy a goat at school lol :s
I may aswell give up because not matter what I say your porno collection is still gonna consist of magazines like "Mobile Choice" and video clips like "The Gadget Show" -.-
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I may aswell give up because not matter what I say your porno collection is still gonna consist of magazines like "Mobile Choice" and video clips like "The Gadget Show" -.-
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Thats the funniest thing I heard all day
On the topic, SE are NOT stupid for using CMOS or what ever you call it. If you look at it this way, Sony are half of Sony Ericsson, and correct me if im wrong, Sony also are a company which make numerous products, including cameras! SE are not retarded, if they started using all these sensors they use in their top end cyber shot CAMERAS, the money they make for their cameras will go down as no one will buy them, as after all, people can get all this stuff in one device, there will be no need to buy a camera. This will have a small affect on the rate of phones they sell, but a massive affect on the amount of cameras they sell.
A lot of you lot don't know how the market runs, because if you did, you would have thought of that. Think about it this way, are not to botherd if they are not selling as much phones as LG or Nokia, at the end of the day, it all comes down to money, and who has the most money? Sony Ericsson. Why? Because they have money from Sony, Sony sell thousands of stuff, TV's, Radios, Game Consoles, you name it, every electronical device, sony makes. Nokia proberly dreams to have as much cash as Sony. I doubt very much SE will incorperate CCD sensors, many people are unaware of how it all runs, to these people, the more mega pixels they hear, the more they like it, with the Cyber-Shot sticker stuck on the phone, they praticly wan't to rape the phone before it even comes out, then try to have sex with it all over again. (look at Plankgaton, enough said, in sony ericssons case, people will need new firmware before they can have a proper "passionate" expiriance with the phone  ) People emidiately believe, the more mega pixels the better, which obviously is not true, but this marketing ploy works and its gonna continue.
It will be very intresting to hear the rate of sony cameras being sold, in the years SE breifly used CCD sensors.
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Now FINALLY a rebuttal with information against my own. THANK you!
This is going to be tough.
On 2008-04-27 06:16:54, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2008-04-26 21:57:06, Prom1 wrote:
* CCD does NOT gaurantee a better image in camera phones under 10MP.
That's an odd statement. Have you seen any camera phones with cameras at or above 10 MP? Do you have the source for this information? CCD is more sensitive than CMOS. Compare IMX020, the CMOS sensor in the K850i with ICX495, i-mobile 902's CCD sensor (also used in several 5 MP P&S cameras!). Take note of the specs on the second page in both PDFs. See the sensitivity data? Do you see that the ICX495 is three times more sensitive than the IMX020? Do you still think that this has no impact on photo quality?
the i-mobile 902's is a 1.3MP camera phone is it not? WHy then would ANY company choose to use it in a 5MP resolution - would that NOT ruin the quality? The second nor the first link tell me NOTHING about the i-Mobile 902 using EITHER sensor, but some of the photos do state 5MP, not hte sensor in use. Cool. Of note The 3rd photo posted (http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=11183&make=samart&model=i-mobile+902) here on Esato by yourself states:
Make SAMART
Model i-mobile 902
Exposure Time 1/250 sec
Aperture f/5.6
ISO 50
Scene Normal
Flash used Flash did not fire
Image resolution 1.92 mega pixels (1600 x 1200)
Date/Time 2008-04-04 10:14:26
THe black bar at the bottom of the shot is just black; devoid of any contrast. Surely a CCD with such sensitivity should relay this much more clearly. However, I have a very old LCD that shows dark areas at the top of my screen - needs replacement; but this is at the bottom of my LCD screen. Also note that the blue in the DOmino's Pizza store is not a dark blue but slightly faded. It SHOULD be the same color as the blue under the pizza (botton left corner) in the storefront picture in the window. At least with marketing material in my end of the world - marketing for different countries does change ad material so I'll omit that from my judgement.
On 2008-04-27 06:16:54, AbuBasim wrote:
Have a look at the i-mobile 902 photos we have posted here, feel free to look at the photos at full size to see the lack of noise. And then compare with what you can produce with your K850i... Ask yourself, which camera phone produces photos that still looks good when printed at A4 (8x10")? Which of these camera phones would you use if you were to shoot some good low light shots and didn't have access to a proper digicam?
To be honest only the 4th, 5th,7th (greens come out ok), 8th (if it was at full 5MP), 9th (because I like the ant), 10th (VW - its obligatory print ), and the 12th pictures I'd print at 8x11.1/2 (I'm Canadian and A4 is non-standard to us). However, I've noticed the photos you've posted do NOT have a lot of vibrant color - the TRUE test of ANY type of sensor, lens, & quality of ANY camera: Phone or otherwise! the 8th photo of the Mobo even though a good macro its still somewhat blurred (almost like an intentional effect of sorts). Same goes for the ANT photo, around the legs. I cannot SEE those little "hooks" or "hairs" ON those legs; yet many Macros taken by the K850i's or even the K800/810's of bugs show those hairs in GREAT detail - undoctored as well. As I've said CCD ALONE does NOT guarantee a QUALITY photo in any way taken.
On 2008-04-27 06:16:54, AbuBasim wrote:
* CCD adds more weight and SIZE to the thickness of a phone: that "I-mobile 902" phone which I cannot even see the specs on dimensions on gsmarena.com is HUGE in the link at (http://www.mobile-review.com/review/imobile-902-en.shtml)! Its thickness surely based on the CCD module alone
The i-mobile 902 is almost exactly the same size as the K850i, only half a millimeter thicker ( that's 1/50" for you people using US units). And the weight of the i-mobile 902 is 100 grams. What is the weight of the K850i? What is the weight in mm pls (I've posted in mm, and I'm NOT American nor use Imperial systems of measurements - I'm Canadian). The K850i has an internal shutter, motion-sensor, Tri-band 3G HSDPA chipset with quadband GSM/EDGE which as well which contributes to the weight (K850 - 102 x 48 x 17 mm, 118g).
On 2008-04-27 06:16:54, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2008-04-27 03:57:27, Prom1 wrote:
IF you disagree, then show me a Samsung CCD phone in candybar offering same or similar features in camera - even a 3.2MP model and compare size??
Not candybar but clamshell: Samsung Z710: size 96.7 x 47.5 x 20.5 mm and weight is 108 grams. SE only has one clamshell with a 3MP camera, the W980 and it's size is 92 x 46 x 16.9 mm and weight 100 grams. I would assume that CCD would add to thickness and not length nor width. The Z710 is less than 4 mm thicker and 8 grams heavier. Not a HUGE difference I would say. I would definitely take the risk of developing a hernia by carrying an 8 grams heavier phone in my pocket if it takes better photos. Looking at the Z710, I would assume that the difference in weight is due to the design of the display and how it not only does fold up but also can be turned around:
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Btw, that Samsung z710 from gsmarena link states 108 g as the weight & 3.1mm thicker. You failed to mention that the W980i also has a motion-sensor (adding size) & 8GB Flash (which will add to the weight) imbedded. I did however mention before that SE seems to stay at the same thickness relatively since the K750/W800i back in 2005 - 20.5mm. The W810 - 19.5mm, and like the K750i had the thick MSDuoPro slot, when that was gone, both the K850i & K810 have the same thickness. With today's technologies these phones can be slimmer - again you failed to notice the other 5MP CMOS phone I mentioned and ITS thickness - C902 10.5mm @ 107grams (also not the G900 a smartphone with WIFi & 5MP CMOS is 13mm thick @ 99grams). Again no CCD phone is that THIN on the market - yet you DID come close with the z710 by Samsung.
Great rebuttal though.
PS: I don't just rely on specs on "paper", were how it performs is the true connection we have to gadgets.
Cheers.
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I've gotta agree with prom1 I'm afraid. I don't think SE need to use a CCD sensor. It's more that they just need to stop using crappy sensors and go back to the quality standard that was set by K750.
They tried to fix the noise problem of the K750 by increasing noise filtering on later cameras. Whereas what they should be doing is simply increasing the quality of the sensor. They can do this without resorting to CCD.
Actually I'm surprised that Sony (who developed the camera module for the K750) haven't gone ahead in leaps and bounds. They really should have 5MP cmos sensors by now that are good enough quality to keep noise low without having to use noise filtering.
I really don't care if they use CMOS or CCD, as long as they get the quality back up to scratch.
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@ A L 3 X That would have been funny indeed ... if it wasn't coming from a teen with 500+ posts . I won't even comment on the goat thing ... lay of the porn, get youself a real GF, too much wanking builds the stress up ...
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please improve and place importance in QUALITY rather than quantity...
Shiho by all means should regain the lost imaging throne.
the connecting people must only be a runner up in imaging. with its Cybershot phones should (always) be the winner..
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I just wanna say that they just have to make one high-end phone with CCD, to test reactions.
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On 2008-04-27 23:21:03, Prom1 wrote:
the i-mobile 902's is a 1.3MP camera phone is it not?
No, it's a 5 MP camera phone, with interpolation up to 8 MP, much like K700's interpolated 1 MP mode.
The second nor the first link tell me NOTHING about the i-Mobile 902 using EITHER sensor, but some of the photos do state 5MP, not hte sensor in use.
I disassembled my first i-mobile 902 to confirm that the sensor is an ICX495. I posted a couple of photos of that last year in the i-mobile 902 photos thread.
(http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=11183&make=samart&model=i-mobile+902) here on Esato by yourself states:
Make SAMART
Model i-mobile 902
Exposure Time 1/250 sec
Aperture f/5.6
ISO 50
Scene Normal
Flash used Flash did not fire
Image resolution 1.92 mega pixels (1600 x 1200)
Date/Time 2008-04-04 10:14:26
THe black bar at the bottom of the shot is just black; devoid of any contrast. Surely a CCD with such sensitivity should relay this much more clearly.
I shot that photo in 2 MP mode when doing a comparison with my HTC TyTN. That the bottom part is black is due to the exposure. The photo was shot in bright daylight, and then scene is the view from the balcony from our living room. The lower dark part is the inside part of the balcony and since it's sunny that part doesn't receive much light with the faster shutter and smaller aperture.
Also note that the blue in the DOmino's Pizza store is not a dark blue but slightly faded. It SHOULD be the same color as the blue under the pizza (botton left corner) in the storefront picture in the window. At least with marketing material in my end of the world - marketing for different countries does change ad material so I'll omit that from my judgement.
The shot of the Domino's Pizza was shot early afternoon with very bright sunlight. (The lower part of the photo is a tinted passenger window.) Here in Muscat we don't get a lot of clouds. Bright sunlight usually have a tendency to drain colors when shooting pictures. Also, I have set the color saturation to medium on purpose.
As I've said CCD ALONE does NOT guarantee a QUALITY photo in any way taken.
You added "ALONE" this time. Maybe the i-mobile 902 is not the world's best camera phone. It does sometimes have problem with WB. Indoors I can't use Auto WB and have to set it manually. And the lens could be better as the edges of some shots gets blurred. But the quality of some of the shots it's able to produce is maybe an indication of what a similar phone from SE or Nokia would be capable of. I'm thinking Nokia here especially since they use Carl Zeiss lenses. How much better the N82 would have been with CCD?
What is the weight in mm pls (I've posted in mm, and I'm NOT American nor use Imperial systems of measurements - I'm Canadian).
When did Canada start measuring weight with length units?
The K850i has an internal shutter, motion-sensor, Tri-band 3G HSDPA chipset with quadband GSM/EDGE which as well which contributes to the weight (K850 - 102 x 48 x 17 mm, 118g).
Yes, but the point about CCD adding bulk to a phone doesn't hold up.
On 2008-04-28 03:21:38, max_wedge wrote:
I've gotta agree with prom1 I'm afraid. I don't think SE need to use a CCD sensor. It's more that they just need to stop using crappy sensors and go back to the quality standard that was set by K750.
Another point about the 902 is how it is not tuned for user friendliness but instead IQ (image quality). The slow shutter speeds it uses require the use of tripod or some other support. It's night mode is the unique feature that is not present in any other camera phone; 4 seconds shutter speed! Most other phone producers concentrate on usability before image quality which I think is a pity. If were truly interested in good Cyber-shot phones they could still keep their CMOS sensors, slight larger perhaps (1/2.5" instead of 1/2.8" as used in the K850), and add some more options to the camera: ISO 50, manual shutter speed selection, variable aperture. The night mode on most CMOS camera phones just boost ISO (and also noise!) in low light shots. The 902 does it the completely other way: ISO 50 and very slow shutter.
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hgautam
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@prom1
You still didn't got it, do you???
You are just coming up with things that backup CMOS but you are forgeting the benefits of a CCD...
The main advantage of CCD is when taking pics in dark/low light environments and in the day time it's atleast as good as CMOS... You can agree to that???
The main point is:
On 2008-04-28 06:34:05, lennyv87 wrote:
I just wanna say that they just have to make one high-end phone with CCD, to test reactions.
That's it... SE's flahship high end cyberhots will indeed be thick even if they are CMOS, so why not put a CCD in it??? It's quite simple but it seems you don't and will not understand what I am saying and I ain't gonna try to make you understand any further...
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@hgautam
Do you personally understand what you're writing yourself? Yeah, K850 is already thick and this is exactly why it wouldn't be a good idea to put CCD sensor.
Maybe you think that K850 is an empty case? If it is thick even with CMOS, CCD would make K850 thicker.
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A L 3 X wrote:
I've already said I havent....apart from contributing to buy a goat at school lol :s
I may aswell give up because not matter what I say your porno collection is still gonna consist of magazines like "Mobile Choice" and video clips like "The Gadget Show" -.-
OK >500 posts guy but, I'm the geek? Wish I was a geek, actually. They've come a long way and basically run the world. Would love to be more tech-savvy. Can't even flash a phone.
I can't emphasize how FAR off you are by calling me a geek and what a douche you sound like. Yet, I can't defend it because that would mean being a "geek" is a bad thing. So I won't. I can tell you that as a freshman in HS I played Varsity in 2 sports and went on to a full-scholarship for baseball in college. So keep it up A L (I'm so cool I'm gonna put a "3" instead of a "E", chicks are gonna love it) X and also I prefer old-school porn, not a big fan of silicone it doesn't feel or move naturally....and who has a "porno collection" anymore anyway? It's called the internet A L "3" X you should try it. Oh man that "3" thing is just terrific, can I borrow it? Can I be "3ddieAdams" or even "3ddie4dams". Just awesome, f33ling l3ss "g33ky" alr3ady. Douche..... |
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Eddie,
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On 2008-04-28 17:02:50, EddieAdams wrote:
A L 3 X wrote:
I've already said I havent....apart from contributing to buy a goat at school lol :s
I may aswell give up because not matter what I say your porno collection is still gonna consist of magazines like "Mobile Choice" and video clips like "The Gadget Show" -.-
OK >500 posts guy but, I'm the geek? Wish I was a geek, actually. They've come a long way and basically run the world. Would love to be more tech-savvy. Can't even flash a phone.
I can't emphasize how FAR off you are by calling me a geek and what a douche you sound like. Yet, I can't defend it because that would mean being a "geek" is a bad thing. So I won't. I can tell you that as a freshman in HS I played Varsity in 2 sports and went on to a full-scholarship for baseball in college. So keep it up A L (I'm so cool I'm gonna put a "3" instead of a "E", chicks are gonna love it) X and also I prefer old-school porn, not a big fan of silicone it doesn't feel or move naturally....and who has a "porno collection" anymore anyway? It's called the internet A L "3" X you should try it. Oh man that "3" thing is just terrific, can I borrow it? Can I be "3ddieAdams" or even "3ddie4dams". Just awesome, f33ling l3ss "g33ky" alr3ady. Douche.....
first of all you try and bring the geek thing back to me because of my post count but then you say I should open my eyes to the internet.....you seem to contradict yourself and you should read through your replies before posting them(or get your mother to help you) when trying to act smart. And if you notice most of my posts have nothing to do with mobile phones or how many gazillion pixels they have........I don't have a clue what all that freshman bullshit is so I won't comment on it....and as for douche, that's a typical American thing to say.
Some thing that makes me laugh is I don't see how an earth you can pick fault with my username when you can't think of anything more imaginative than whats written on your birth certificate, I can think of a better one already, i think "Professor Frink" would be more suitable, and somehow I doubt many "chicks" will visit a forum dedicated to mobile phones and even if they did I don't really see why they would be impressed by the number "3"......if that has impressed any of your girlfriends(if you've ever had any) then they must be pretty interesting.....
On 2008-04-28 04:33:16, theos wrote:
@ A L 3 X That would have been funny indeed ... if it wasn't coming from a teen with 500+ posts . I won't even comment on the goat thing ... lay of the porn, get youself a real GF, too much wanking builds the stress up ...
This message was posted from a WAP device
Theos I was merely trying to relate to the geeks like you....who never leave their house except to go to gadget shops and would only talk to male staff as they would be a bit embarassed talking to girls....I like the way you posted that from the wap device aswell there haha
Thanks for taking the time to read this Eddie....now you can get back to your totally un-geek-like discussion of
"Petition for SE to use CCD in their top C-series phones"
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Posted: 2008-04-27 03:57
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