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Simon N
Joined: Dec 02, 2005
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From: Nottingham UK
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My k700i joystick went around the 11thmonth mark;
Not a problem as in the 12th month I always get an upgrade.
My k750i has now started to go in the 10th Month of ownership;
Not to worry as I know it will last till the next upgrade.
Seems to me that under normal circumstances the joysticks will just about make it through the year. I actually mountainbike, do a lot of DIY and use the phone heavily so it is exposed to a lot of dust, grit and grime.
I dont see the point in a phone lasting more than a year as by the 12th month the screen is usually scratched and the case a little worn. Its that reason I refuse to ever have an 18 month contract.
Those that say the joysticks go too quickly really need to look into their lifestyle as if you are surrounded by that much dust and dirt then your too skanky to own a SE 
Seriously if you subject your phone to sitting in some dust filled pocket then have such little life as to spend hours on easy/boring mobile games twiddling away on the joystick...you deserve a broken phone. Likewise if you can not be bothered to clean it or look after.....you deserve a broken phone.
Perhaps there is a market for mobile phone servicing. Regular services to clean out dust and dirt. Make the lazy people pay for it!! | |
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JK
Joined: Feb 24, 2005
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From: S. Africa - JOZI
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On 2006-08-09 16:15:26, leerichards wrote:
No joystick problems here from my T68i, T610, K700, K750 and now K800, so I don't think I'll be signing your petition!
Lee
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Im with this oke, No probs.... |
chunkybeats
Joined: Dec 08, 2005
Posts: 497
From: New Zealand
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@ wiggser
yep your right lad, and yes it looks sexy as f.c.u.k.
bare in mind tho the w950 as well will have no joystick, its touchscreen so this could pave the way!! Just wondering has there been a mainstream nokia with a touchscreen, i know there was a big ugly brute of a phone they brought out last year, cant remember, but it looked hideous!!!! |
chunkybeats
Joined: Dec 08, 2005
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From: New Zealand
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sorry and the m600 as well!!! |
max_wedge
Joined: Aug 29, 2004
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On 2006-08-10 12:07:48, Simon N wrote:
My k700i joystick went around the 11thmonth mark;
Not a problem as in the 12th month I always get an upgrade.
My k750i has now started to go in the 10th Month of ownership;
Not to worry as I know it will last till the next upgrade.
Seems to me that under normal circumstances the joysticks will just about make it through the year. I actually mountainbike, do a lot of DIY and use the phone heavily so it is exposed to a lot of dust, grit and grime.
I dont see the point in a phone lasting more than a year as by the 12th month the screen is usually scratched and the case a little worn. Its that reason I refuse to ever have an 18 month contract.
Those that say the joysticks go too quickly really need to look into their lifestyle as if you are surrounded by that much dust and dirt then your too skanky to own a SE
Seriously if you subject your phone to sitting in some dust filled pocket then have such little life as to spend hours on easy/boring mobile games twiddling away on the joystick...you deserve a broken phone. Likewise if you can not be bothered to clean it or look after.....you deserve a broken phone.
Perhaps there is a market for mobile phone servicing. Regular services to clean out dust and dirt. Make the lazy people pay for it!!
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Agree.  These extreme users of joysticks should just recognise that it's they who need the dpad, not other users. Many people probably love the joystick and never have a problem, yet SE is supposed to change all phones to dpads because a few peeps have a 12 hours a day mobile phone habbit?
If you want to use a phone that much, then you know what to do - buy a phone with a dpad. No need for any petition (I certainly ain't signing it).
Two simple things:
1. Keep your stick clean (but no need to be uptight about it)
2. Buy a phone with Dpad instead if you expect to handle your stick 6 hours a day or more.
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Simon N
Joined: Dec 02, 2005
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From: Nottingham UK
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On 2006-08-10 16:35:10, max_wedge wrote:
Two simple things:
1. Keep your stick clean
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That applies in so many ways. Valuable advice for sure. |
carkitter
Joined: Apr 29, 2005
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From: Auckland, NZ
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I had problems with my K700i joystick after about a year. It was also quite sharp and uncomfortable to use.
My V800 d-pad is much better.
And no I don't play mobile games or have a 12 hour per day text habit.
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BobaFett
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
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From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
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One of the reasons i didnt took k8 is that really cheap and crap joy. Isnt it worth for a metal one likd k600?
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Aware
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
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From: Oxon, UK
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Joysticks have been breaking since the Atari..
..not just SE's.....
.....either way(I prefer joysticks, 'only' clean mine every 6 months, works fine on my year old W800), it's surely good that the manufacturer offers both solutions across it's model range? AFAIK, Samsung, for example, ONLY offer D-pads... |
max_wedge
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On 2006-08-11 15:02:27, Aware wrote:
Joysticks have been breaking since the Atari..
..not just SE's.....
.....either way(I prefer joysticks, 'only' clean mine every 6 months, works fine on my year old W800), it's surely good that the manufacturer offers both solutions across it's model range? AFAIK, Samsung, for example, ONLY offer D-pads...
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Exactly, it's a trade off. Atleast with SE there is choice. I prefer joysticks, and my K joystick has needed overhauling once in twelve months, which I do using electronic contact cleaner (see my tute)
Anything with a mechanical component will need some type of servicing sometime in it's life to extend the service life. Cars, computers, dvd players (head cleaning), all need to be "maintained". I don't find it such a hard thing to accept that a phone joystick would be the same. I certainly don't waste too much time blaiming SE about it.
The joystick will need servicing a lot less freguently if the phone is cased and carried on your belt and not in a pocket or handbag, but if you don't want to carry it on your belt, get a K610 or W810 for example, phones which incidently are much better looking phones and deserve to be uncased anyway.
If you desire a joystick, then you should either case your phone or else put up with the more frequent servicing required to keep it in working order. I still can't see any need for a petition, infact I will start a petition to encourage SE to retain the use of joysticks on the imaging phones if this other petition get's off the ground.
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max_wedge
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On 2006-08-11 13:04:05, carkitter wrote:
I had problems with my K700i joystick after about a year. It was also quite sharp and uncomfortable to use.
My V800 d-pad is much better.
And no I don't play mobile games or have a 12 hour per day text habit.
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The K750 joystick is radically improved over the K700, gauranteed. I owned both phones. The K700 needed cleaning several times, the K750 only needed it after about 10 months. btw, i was being sarcastic about the 12 hour day shit - because some dude posted that he used his joy that much and then bitched that it didn't work so good no more Well, duh.
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slugworth
Joined: Jul 19, 2006
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the joystick is the trade mark i think people hate it for 2 weeks then cant use a Dpad after lol i hated the T68i for about a week then i couldnt live without one i struggle with them now (dpads)
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jingboyx
Joined: Jul 12, 2005
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From: City of Seven Hills
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On 2006-08-12 03:53:20, max_wedge wrote:
btw, i was being sarcastic about the 12 hour day shit - because some dude posted that he used his joy that much and then bitched that it didn't work so good no more Well, duh.
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Maybe joysticks aren`t designed for 12hr/day use. But D-pads certainly are ...and they cause less strain for the thumb. Which means in terms of durability , D-pads are definitely superior. Besides if SE were to take feedback on its ergonomics they would certainly prefer to hear from harcore(12hr/day) SE users rather than light users. During my entire experience with SE for the past 4 yrs... SE joysticks never performed upto the mark . Yes you maybe right that I overused my joystick phones too much for them to fail . At the same time I overused my d-pad phones too and I didn`t face any problem with them. When my joysticks failed within 2 months of purchase, my d-pads lasted even after 7 months of heavy usage.
Summary :
If joystick phones are not suitable for a 12hr/day user, then D-pads certainly are.
It is obvious from your post that you weren`t using ur joystick that much or atleast not as much as I do.
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max_wedge
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On 2006-08-12 05:44:45, jingboyx wrote:
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On 2006-08-12 03:53:20, max_wedge wrote:
btw, i was being sarcastic about the 12 hour day shit - because some dude posted that he used his joy that much and then bitched that it didn't work so good no more Well, duh.
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Maybe joysticks aren`t designed for 12hr/day use. But D-pads certainly are ...and they cause less strain for the thumb. Which means in terms of durability , D-pads are definitely superior. Besides if SE were to take feedback on its ergonomics they would certainly prefer to hear from harcore(12hr/day) SE users rather than light users.
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Not necessarily - the fact is they know guys like you will break their joysticks no matter how hard they try, that's just joysticks for you. They can't win.
Besides, it's laughable to even imagine that SE don't do their market research on this. They don't stumble around blindly hoping people will like their phones. Infact, SE brought out more dpads in response to user feedback, but they still didn't remove the joystick from K series flagship, which means they MUST have had strong feedback in favour of joysticks from the K series demographic, IMHO.
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During my entire experience with SE for the past 4 yrs... SE joysticks never performed upto the mark . Yes you maybe right that I overused my joystick phones too much for them to fail . At the same time I overused my d-pad phones too and I didn`t face any problem with them. When my joysticks failed within 2 months of purchase, my d-pads lasted even after 7 months of heavy usage.
Summary :
If joystick phones are not suitable for a 12hr/day user, then D-pads certainly are.
It is obvious from your post that you weren`t using ur joystick that much or atleast not as much as I do.
[ This Message was edited by: jingboyx on 2006-08-12 04:50 ]
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I use it a fair bit, about 2 hours a day worth of reasonably heavy joystick use (games, camera functions, messaging, and general menu browsing). 12 hours is significantly more than that though....hardly typical use.
I'm not arguing that a dpad isn't more durable anyway, that's obvious. I'm simply arguing that for some purposes a joystick is a better controller than a dpad. You don't have to agree, that's your perogative - but many people do agree with me and that's why I don't think it would be appropriate of SE to remove the joystick on all models. I don't see it as an either/or argument. Why not keep both, so peeps have a choice?
There are choices for you - why not the W810, it's a nice little phone? Or, the K610. I just don't see the issue I'm afraid. 
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Timmmmy !!
Joined: Aug 08, 2006
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From: Berkshire, UK
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You know you do have a choice to purchase a phone from another manufacturer !! | |
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Posted: 2006-08-10 12:07
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