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Yakkaimono
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Posted: 2008-05-21 15:12
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That's the best news since a long time. Now if they get the thing with the os working it will be just an awesome device and maybe my next phone.
QVGA
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Posted: 2008-05-21 15:13
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So this means the X panel problems will be solved? Were those caused by less RAM or what?
fumi_moon
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Posted: 2008-05-21 15:39
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I have to say, I was not very interested in X1 before, I was looking forward to Paris but that has changed, then I heard of another SE device in the 2008 Rumor thread that I believe will have similar specs to the X1.

However, I am thinking of waiting for X1 instead because of this ram change to 256 MB.
Current mobilephone: P1i and my now old K800i, and before that W800i, V800i, Z600i, and T310. Waiting for X10.
Peio
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Posted: 2008-05-21 16:07
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Me too, I'm getting more and more bored of my P1i at the moment, and want to change of OS toward WM.

The only issues are
- its price
- its release date
These could make me buy the diamond instead, if i'm not patient enough
norti
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Posted: 2008-05-21 18:43
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Now I think the Diamond will fade away in no time (sorry for it)

The new white paper is more accurate than the R1a. Talking/video talking/standby times look promising (I think the standby time for UMTS and GSM is replaced, UMTS standby is less than GSM, but it's still great)

The R2a WP means, that the release time will be soon (all of my previous SE phones were retailed with R2a firmware)
jalf
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Posted: 2008-05-21 19:28
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is it because of new batteries from se?
d-southwest
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Posted: 2008-05-22 23:44
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I think its great that some things have change for tha x1

But i still have a question

What will be tha storage memory of this phone NOW?
badassmam
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Posted: 2008-05-23 00:52
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What are the SE elements of the phone? I know the camera uses the SE UI, what about Walkman player? Any other things apart from the panels that differentiate it from other WM devices?
WhyBe
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Posted: 2008-05-23 01:55
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On 2008-05-22 23:44:21, d-southwest wrote:
I think its great that some things have change for tha x1

But i still have a question

What will be tha storage memory of this phone NOW?


The storage is the same. Up to 400MB flash plus whatever SDHC card you add (4GB, 8GB, 16GB and so on).

Posted: 2008-05-22 18:52 by Badassmam
What are the SE elements of the phone? I know the camera uses the SE UI, what about Walkman player? Any other things apart from the panels that differentiate it from other WM devices?

There will be software written especially for the X1 (800x480 WVGA) available through Handango InHand at the time of release. The white paper has information on some of the included panels. It seems as if you could possibly never see WM depending on what you run. All software is potentially accessible through panels. So to get from one app to the next, just press the panel button then choose the panel you want. Very iPhone-ish.

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-05-23 07:56 ]
XPHCTOC
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Posted: 2008-05-23 08:44
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Thanks to Yakkaimono we now know that there is a 3rd version of X1 white paper. I've checked very carefully the 2 papers.
There are no differences except some typographic changes. Nothing really interesting
p.21

"Data rates
Multislot class 10 supported (max 5 simultaneously)
Coding Scheme: CS-1, CS-2, CS-3, CS-4 supported
Data Rates: 9,050 bps, 13,400 bps, 15,600 bps, 21,400 bps supported (network dependent)"

In the 2nd version it was written "Multislot class 12 supported".
That's all.

Creating a new version of the document just for this is very strange. They have confirmed the 256MB RAM and 512 ROM, the weight (it's always 158gr) + and the have let the mistaken life battery in UMTS use.

[ This Message was edited by: XPHCTOC on 2008-05-23 07:51 ]
WhyBe
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Posted: 2008-05-23 09:02
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Here's a thread on the so-called WM device 65K color "restriction".
d-southwest
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Posted: 2008-05-23 15:58
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Thanks WhyBe

So tha memorys isnt lower than 400MB?

Peace
d-southwest
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Posted: 2008-05-23 16:47
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What i meant to say was

On the other whitepaper was that it was 400mb, but because of tha panel or Windows program that it became 360mb
Do you get me on this:P
XPHCTOC
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Posted: 2008-05-23 18:44
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Where did you read that built in storage would be 360MB?? In the 3rd White paper release it's always written "up to 400MB".
WhyBe
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Posted: 2008-05-23 19:12
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On 2008-05-23 16:47:06, d-southwest wrote:
What i meant to say was

On the other whitepaper was that it was 400mb, but because of tha panel or Windows program that it became 360mb
Do you get me on this:P


OK, in that case, built in Flash RAM is 512MB. I suppose 112MB of that is used for )all of the built in software + OS. That leaves 400MB for your own software and data.

Then there's the 256MB SDRAM for program execution (volatile RAM)

Finally, theres additional storage for data snd software provided by SDHC cards which could be from 4/8/16/32 GB depending on the capacity of card you buy.
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