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xan K
Joined: Jun 15, 2006
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From: Republica Dominicana
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when you say Service Pack 2, you mean Windows XP SP2 or .Net 1.1 SP2, because I've never heard of any SP2 for .Net framework. Now there are 1.1 and 2.0 frameworks, they're not the same and version 2.0 won't replace version 1.1, they're both installed along each other.
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mysh
Joined: Dec 04, 2005
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On 2006-08-19 21:42:14, dcuk wrote:
Hi Mysh,
I love the idea of your software but as yet have not been able to get results, please see example picture, every video I have tried has been grabbed from a DTV card (720x576 pal aspect is 1.25) and have tried all built in crop options which leads me onto point two!
Please can you add manual cropping features into your program? Without your software I always use virtualdubmod first to do this before I encode and understand it requires more calculations in relation to PAR and DAR
I think the problem my be your software is giving the information that my videos (720x576 pal) are aspect 1.33 when they are actually 1.25
[ This Message was edited by: dcuk on 2006-08-19 20:46 ]
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apologies to mobile readers for the large quote.
dcuk, the problem in that screenshot looks to be a colourspace error.
What i need from you is the file format (eg. avi) and the codecs in use. This information is in the lastrun.log file after you try to convert the video.
Could you email me the lastrun.log for that video to m3bugs at gmail.com, thanks. 
As you're used to using virtuladubmod, it'd be great if you create a short clip of the video and email me that too. Set the video and audio streams to "direct stream copy", use the edit - delete option to remove most of the video, leaving a short 30 second clip, then save as avi. Email me the short clip with the lastrun.log, cheers!
about the PAR, 1.25 is close enough to 1.33 that you won't see any aspect distortion from m3 treating the video as 1.33. I am planning to add manual cropping adjustment at some point, but m3 is currently alpha software and i have other larger features to work on first.
seriously, the 1.25 aspect isn't a significant problem, you won't be able to tell any real difference between 1.33 and 1.25, they're too close. Aspect is only a problem when it's a large difference like 1.33 and 1.77 (16:9 widescreen). so manual cropping at this point isn't an urgent feature, but it will be included later. |
mysh
Joined: Dec 04, 2005
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pepi, could you email me the lastrun.log for the mov file that didn't output a video? Thank you.
jj03, you need the .net 2.0 framework, you can get it here...
http://www.microsoft.com/down[....]DD-AAB15C5E04F5&displaylang=en
about 2 pass encoding for mobile devices....
traditionally 2 pass is used to improve video quality, it does this by assigning more bitrate to difficult parts of a video, and less bitrate to easy parts.
however mobile phones have quite low maximum bitrates, and normal 2 pass encoding would make the video unwatchable, because the phone can't handle the extra bitrate that would be used on difficult scenes in the video.
so 2-pass in m3 is designed not to improve video quality (because it's simply not possible to do that on a phone using higher bitrates, as mentioned above). Instead 2-pass can be used to reduce the video file size, by maintaining maximum possible bitrate on difficult scenes (just like 1 pass), but making use of the lower bitrate on easy scenes in the video. Essentially you get the same quality as 1 pass for difficult scenes in the video, and the benefits of 2 pass to save file size on the easy scenes in the video.
Someone asked me for the feature to be included in m3, so i added it, but i don't personally think a 10-20% saving in filesize is worth the 70% longer conversion time that 2-pass creates.
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jj03
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mysh, i installed .net framework 2 previously, but it gave me an error..plus, it says windows xp in the system requirements, not xp pro... |
jj03
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ok..everything sorted..thanks to everyone who helped. much appreciated. |
shazzydoosh
Joined: Jul 18, 2006
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Hi Mysh,
I have been folowing this thread and downloaded the latest installer. However when I run it it states I need to read and accept the Nero end user license agreement, however just a blank user form loads... no text box, no license agreement, no control, no buttons.
I have reinstalled twice now. any advice?? |
mysh
Joined: Dec 04, 2005
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make sure m3 is allowed internet access by your firewall. It needs to download a web page to show the license agreement and then download the nero codec. This is for legal reasons, i can't distribute the nero codec with the software directly.
I'm taking a few days off to go holiday here, but i'll be checking my email, so if anyone finds a bugs/problem, send it to m3bugs at gmail.com, thanks.
[ This Message was edited by: mysh on 2006-08-20 23:20 ] |
dcuk
Joined: Jun 28, 2005
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Hi Mysh,
I've emailed you all the videos you asked for plus others in hope they will be helpful.
As for aspect I know what you mean but do like my circles as near as possible.
1.25
1.33
As for my last post the files are originally DTV TS mpg format but M3 won't complete a conversation,
so converted to PS mpg using VideoReDo, I've not had any problems with the files format in other software.
I've sent you all samples including a PS mpg converted using virtualdubmod to avi which will then work ok in M3, look forward to hearing your findings.
Back to manual cropping here are a couple of pics actually converted using M3 the cut and pasted onto a K800i photo to explain
The best built in crop possible to remove black bars using M3
Manually cropped using Virtualdubmod then encoded using M3
Hope this helps!
Sorry for long post,
Dcuk
KEY: TS=Transport Stream (DigitalTV cards save as this)
PS=Programme Stream (Normal .mpg file format) |
shazzydoosh
Joined: Jul 18, 2006
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Mysh,
The problem is I am installing it on a machine with no internet connection. Long story. Is there any way I can manually download the codec, and prevent M3 from attempting to connect to the net. Is there a .ini file I can alter etc?? |
shazzydoosh
Joined: Jul 18, 2006
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Mysh,
It's all ok, I followed a link from earlier in the thread and downloaded Nero coded and put it in the M3 directory.. working ok. Trying to convert now. Have you any way of croping the length of the movie filre like in Super. E.g. only record 10min starting at xx:xx:xx.... |
buundi
Joined: Aug 21, 2006
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Hi, thanks for this great software.
I have a quiestion about dvd conversion. When I use a dvd, m3 crashes when it is about to copy the files from the dvd. I found a workaround with that. I just copied the dvd to the hd with dvddecrypter. But I still have a problem. The subtitle option is not working. I can choose my language (include subtitles) in the DialogDVD menu, but there is no subtitles in the encoded video. I can see a add subtitles button in the menu also, but this is greyed out. Is this function implemented yet?
Ps: where is the donate button?
[ This Message was edited by: buundi on 2006-08-21 11:23 ] |
shazzydoosh
Joined: Jul 18, 2006
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hi,
Can someone help me, Im new to M3. All I want to do is convert files (*.mpg, *.avi, *.mov...) for use on my K800i. This means I need M3 to convert to a *.mp4 or *.3gp. The problem is when I try to convert a *.mov file, M3 creates an *.avi.
EIther I am doing something wrong (which means it isn't that intuitive) or it isn't possible.
Any advice guys? |
mysh
Joined: Dec 04, 2005
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m3 will never output an avi file, it isn't possible.
in fact, the only avi files it ever creates are temp.avi and tempavi.avi, and both of those files are only temporary, and are only ever created in the temp folder.
what i think you're doing is looking in the temp folder instead of the output folder.
If you look in the output folder, you will find mp4 files, or nothing. In the case of the latter, send the lastrun.log to m3bugs at gmail.com. ta.
i think it's pretty intuitive to use m3, you basically add some files, select your phone, and press convert. I don't know how to make that any easier! |
shazzydoosh
Joined: Jul 18, 2006
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Mysh,
You are correct, it sems very intuative.. select your model, it creates the correct output. But in this case I loked in the Output folder and there was a compressed file, that played in windows media folder, with the original name of my clip (rocky 6 trailer  ) but with the extension avi.
I will look for this last run file and send it when I get the chance. |
shazzydoosh
Joined: Jul 18, 2006
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Mysh,
I had a look at the Last run log file, it indicated at the bottom that it was finding no audio, and therefore skipping the file after video encryption, and I guess not completing the conversion. I changed the audio codec on the off chance it would work (from the..V2 to the first codec in the list - not at that machine sorry). And It worked.
Thanks for the help anyways | |
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