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goldenface
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On 2008-09-06 20:53:24, Phoner wrote:
On 2008-09-06 20:51:20, Homme wrote:
On 2008-09-06 20:06:20, murderjon wrote:
On 2008-09-06 20:05:11, Homme wrote:
On monday we'll see Hecaro.
Is it a joke?
Yes.
A cruel one.
Don't mess with our minds. That is very cruel.
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kraakie
Joined: Jan 16, 2008
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what will hecaro have
touchscreen?
5 or 8 MP?
qwerty Keyboard?
GPS?
Internal storage?
etc |
marty mcfly
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On 2008-09-06 22:01:45, kraakie wrote:
what will hecaro have
touchscreen?
5 or 8 MP?
qwerty Keyboard?
GPS?
Internal storage?
etc
It will have a heros welcome and then a short life span. 
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xironghostx
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On 2008-09-06 22:06:17, marty mcfly wrote:
It will have a heros welcome and then a short life span.
You mean that it needs to be sent to servicecenter oftent?
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goldenface
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Just imagine for one second. 8.0MP, 8GB internal storage plus 8GB expandable, 80g, 8mm thick. . . .
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Phoner
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Just a translated article:
http://translate.google.com/t[....]tml&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=ru&tl=en
but it does not look promising for those of us waiting for the next  UIQ smartphone.
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makbil
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I can understand the frustrations of SE fanboys. When you don't have anything to stand on you naturally become aggressive.
I just read in the xda-developers forum that the first impressions with the X1 are that it is slower than the HTC Tytn II. I've been using a Tytn II for about a week now, no restarts, everything works but unfortunately it's WM (I've updated the ROM to 6.1). In comparison with the P1, Tytn II is about the same speed, maybe slightly faster but not very noticeable.
So in practical terms, the X1 will be about the same speed as the P1, probably with a lot of crashes, so adjust your expectations accordingly.
If SE comes up with a good P series phone I will get it, otherwise my P1 will most likely be my last SE phone. Things aren't looking good for SE, I believe that is what @doministry is saying.
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace  So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD |
the-flash
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On 2008-09-06 22:16:09, goldenface wrote:
Just imagine for one second. 8.0MP, 8GB internal storage plus 8GB expandable, 80g, 8mm thick. . . .
I'd imagine an 8.0MP camera would be quite bad in such a thin device. |
my ninja
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mizzle this is the rumors thread, dom was only making a valid comparison with other manufacturers that have already announced, some have shipped their business oriented products. yet your defending a company who is BLAMING the segment that they need for the near $300,000,000 operating costs loss so far this year.
i think dom has an EXCELLENT point and you sir, need to remove the blinders. this is a serious subject that in fact DOES belong here. There are no rumors about phones that NEED to be released. there is this absurd vacuum of phones from SE from platforms that are 3 years old.
SE has focused on the entirely wrong segment, and in doing so has written a large check for second biggest "L" in the mobile market this year (motorola being the largest)
the fact that SE has decided to abandon (my inference comes from the language used in the press release about their Q2 losses) that the high-end business segment which they failed to innovate in or even release a competent product due to HORRIFIC engineering and planning, was the cause of their losses is asinine. yet for some reason you fear/hate/loathe dissension in a thread that for its part 'HELPED' in the cancellation of paris, because of said dissension, but it was mainly the internet community turning a cold shoulder to a anemic device! which would have been a monumental failure esp with the likes of HTC/Samsung/Nokia all releasing devices that would have placed Paris at the bottom of that very nice barrel, wouldnt have even been close.
if we take a look at the i8510 vs C905 we find that they are very similar yet holistically different, one being a java based platform (poor choice) vs a symbian S60.r3 platform. SE needs to go ahead and forget 2008, i hope that sony stepping in will at least get the engineering team working again, they have had a 18 month vacation.
For all the display tech sony has, its ashame we havent seen that seep into phones for the world market yet. the japanese market doesnt count, only because those phones will never reach outside of said market. they have the tools yet refuse to work on anything new.
im not sure why you want dom to leave, because there are other phones out there that have piqued his interest. however you did prove his point even if you dont see it, this is a rumors thread, and to be an informed consumer he would like to know whats on the horizon, IE RUMORED to come out. yet you would rather him NOT know what SE is doing, and run to the competition ... if i were you id think about what your asking him to do on a larger scale, cuz it sounds like this:
"If you dont like what SE (we) are doing then, go buy from our competition we dont need/want you around, unless your pouring praise."
seriously, you personify the problem with SE.
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Mizzle
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You're once again making yourself look a fool. It has NOTHING to do with rumours. Absolutely nothing. Nada. Get it? If not, you'll need someone to define for you what that word means - here, let me help you:
"Rumor: A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth"
From The Free Dictionary
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rumor
Now... just how is his "valid comparison" anything close to that? Besides, his ramblings about other manufacturers doesn't belong here either. Neither does your "analysis" of the problem. Once again, that's not a rumour and has nothing to do with it.
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goldenface
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On 2008-09-06 22:58:12, the-flash wrote:
On 2008-09-06 22:16:09, goldenface wrote:
Just imagine for one second. 8.0MP, 8GB internal storage plus 8GB expandable, 80g, 8mm thick. . . .
I'd imagine an 8.0MP camera would be quite bad in such a thin device.
Well, IMO not necessarily. Isn't it the AF and Xenon flash features that adds to the thickness to phones now? Non-AF cams seem to perform quite well in the most recent devices. the W890i seems to have a good cam.
I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung squeezed a non-AF 8.0MP cam into a sub 12mm frame soon.
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my ninja
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On 2008-09-06 23:28:22, Mizzle wrote:
You're once again making yourself look a fool. It has NOTHING to do with rumours. Absolutely nothing. Nada. Get it? If not, you'll need someone to define for you what that word means - here, let me help you:
"Rumor: A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth"
From The Free Dictionary
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rumor
Now... just how is his "valid comparison" anything close to that? Besides, his ramblings about other manufacturers doesn't belong here either. Neither does your "analysis" of the problem. Once again, that's not a rumour and has nothing to do with it.
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[ This Message was edited by: Mizzle on 2008-09-06 22:35 ]
so to be an ass, this thread shouldnt exist cuz none of the information is spread by word of mouth. i see no audio files in this thread ... not even by you.
i dont make myself look like a fool, you implied that i was one because of the way i responded to your condescension. which is fine, its the internet. but you had a great opportunity to respond like an adult to the issues that i have presented, yet you want to debase my post by calling me a fool and defining rumor.
really, is that helpful? this immaculate thread doesnt need the word rumor defined after 1100 pages ...
how does it belong i explained exactly how, with facts and opinions inferred from said facts. anyone can make a clear case based upon what SE themselves has provided from press releases, that have been linked in this "rumors" thread. there have been MANY announcements made of the past 9 months (10-11 if you count PK and paris jump starting this topic in november of last year). so why is it such a problem, its clearly not off topic, unless your narrow view is the only one we are to hold here?
im not sure why youre so defensive, i was making a point, i was also making the point that you are contributing to SE's problem, instead of being a mini-mod why dont you add something, instead of terrorizing other posters?
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yes i realize the irony that the above post is off topic ... but the initial post i made today was not and should not be discounted. |
Dextrr
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On 2008-09-06 23:28:22, Mizzle wrote:
You're once again making yourself look a fool. It has NOTHING to do with rumours. Absolutely nothing. Nada. Get it? If not, you'll need someone to define for you what that word means - here, let me help you:
"Rumor: A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth"
From The Free Dictionary
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rumor
Now... just how is his "valid comparison" anything close to that? Besides, his ramblings about other manufacturers doesn't belong here either. Neither does your "analysis" of the problem. Once again, that's not a rumour and has nothing to do with it.
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[ This Message was edited by: Mizzle on 2008-09-06 22:35 ]
A bit emotional eh buddy?!
Back on topic - I haven't been in here for over a month and still nothing, zip, nada, zilch ... Not even a rumor of a decent device. Everything is still being rehashed by SE with old slow chips and hardware. Blehhh!
And please don't tell me to check out W902, C905 or Xperia either ... Boring!
Will check this thread in another month or so but I'm pretty sure it'll be the same old sorry story, again! |
doministry
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@myninja
@makbil
Thanks much.
And
@Mizzle
I deeply appreciate your work in terms of rumours and great info you provide.
But don't ever call my questions "rumblings" or whatever, "master",
since questions I ask exactly belong here. 100%, and it's not a holy place.
and 'cos I ask about RUMOURS, right?
P.S. You don't like my posting = don't answer. |
goldenface
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Dextrr?
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Posted: 2008-09-06 21:32
So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
