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F-Lexx
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Yes, I meant that.. Sorry for giving the wrong link. |
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apolloa
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Well I don't agree with anything that article said. And Nokia are the same, look at the N96 for one, the only thing new is DAB-H I can't use for at least 3 years, how out of date will it be by then, they should of left it out for the UK and charged less. In fact I read an a review on the N96 today that said the thought they had the spec sheet for he N95.
And look at the Nokia 6220, why get a higher model when it does it all bar WiFi?
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Mizzle
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I think you're missing a point here. The majority of SE's copy/paste phones simply aren't successful, and while Nokia might be doing the same thing, they've got a whole lot more resources to do it with than SE does.
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apolloa
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What do you mean resources? Money? And look at what Nokia innovates with, internet tablets that cost more then a laptop! I find Nokia's boring, SE have always been far more exciting.
It's simply impossible for me to say SE's phones are selling well due to it's recent financial results. But I don't see anything wrong with SE phones, there nice and sexy which Nokia lacks. Nokia copy and pastes across its entire range, it has copied SE a lot too like SE launch the Walkman brand and then Nokia copy. Nokia simply has a massive market share so can do what it wants.
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makbil
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Bottom line is, SE still doesn't have a device to match Nokia's 2 year old N95, bar the memory.
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace  So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD |
badassmam
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Nokia recycle phones and they do well in the shops, thats the difference between  and Nokia. The N96 will be good for sure and even today, I see many people with the 'old' N95. That phone has a massive fanbase so the N96 will be a huge hit.
Even so, their touchscreen phones will be successful as well since there will be a high-end flagship smartphone while the Tube is lower end but still looks good. There is a good choice of phones available. The 6220 is simply a very functional phone, seems to cut bits out from their range so a mid-range Walkman will have an accelerometer but a high-end may not or they make a good phone but put a small screen on it.
impressed me with the G700/G900 because they are do-it-all phones. A few more like those would be nice (K750 is a good example) and of course, some high-end offerings. But beyond that, innovation is needed after all, the iPhone is innovative while being quite rubbish yet it is something unique which is why it is an instant hit.
Sorry for the long post but I am disappointed that there are so many average phones from . The G900/G700 is perfect for me (the only phone that I really like from at the moment) but I will hold out for a bit longer for the JavaOne phone and 16GB Walkman. I want the touchscreen equivilant to the N95 on UIQ. If not, G900 it is then. |
apolloa
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@Makbil, So what, that's one phone model, it does not define the entire Nokia or SE range. The N95 was successful to people who probably only ever use 50% of it's features.
@ baddass
But the G700 and G900 are copy's as well though, they are based on the P1i and W960 both of which have been successful so hopefully the G700 and G900 also will be. Also from what I've seen the Nokia touch interface looks boring like Nokia's phones are. It certainly is a far cry from the advertisement videos for it on You Tube. I don't think it'll succeeded as it's competing against the iPhone which as we all know has a stunning interface. UIQ looks better too IMO.
I nearly caved in and got a N95, but my contract at the time didn't allow me to and am I ever glad I didn't. Now I have a G900 and couldn't be happier. |
titus1
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On 2008-08-09 02:02:54, apolloa wrote:
@Makbil, So what, that's one phone model, it does not define the entire Nokia or SE range. The N95 was successful to people who probably only ever use 50% of it's features.
@ baddass
But the G700 and G900 are copy's as well though, they are based on the P1i and W960 both of which have been successful so hopefully the G700 and G900 also will be. Also from what I've seen the Nokia touch interface looks boring like Nokia's phones are. It certainly is a far cry from the advertisement videos for it on You Tube. I don't think it'll succeeded as it's competing against the iPhone which as we all know has a stunning interface. UIQ looks better too IMO.
I nearly caved in and got a N95, but my contract at the time didn't allow me to and am I ever glad I didn't. Now I have a G900 and couldn't be happier.
Good for you!
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NightBlade
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@appoloa:
How is the G900 a copy of the P1i? They're entirely different phones save for the UIQ OS.
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rontysee
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These days people prefer smartphones to simple java phones. Iphone showed that smartphones can also be simple to operate. Currently, uiq3 is the only platform in the market which mixes best of both smartphones and feature phones i.e simple and eye candy UI and multitasking and support for powerful applications. The only thing SE UIQ3 phones need is more powerful hardware and a bigger range. Uiq3 is the only answer to all the problems of SE. According to me, A200 platform should be used only in low end phones and all mid range and high end phones should be based on Uiq. This is the only way they can beat nokia and samsung's high end offerings. |
se_dude
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Not really, now that SE is incorporating WIfi and Gps into their feature phones the word smartphone will be a myth. Now only if they put in a document and a pdf reader. There are hardly many people out there who actually install symbian many applications in their phone.Maybe 1%. |
rontysee
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On 2008-08-09 06:09:50, se_dude wrote:
Not really, now that SE is incorporating WIfi and Gps into their feature phones the word smartphone will be a myth. Now only if they put in a document and a pdf reader. There are hardly many people out there who actually install symbian many applications in their phone.Maybe 1%.
That is true to a certain extent. But, applications like opera mobile 9.5, core player etc are a must buy these days and they are only possible with smartphones. I know that the gap between feature phones and smartfones is decreasing day by day but uiq3, with its touch screen and simple UI can easily take on s60 and A200. When it comes to high end phones, people would definitely prefer smart phones as they offer more functionality for nearly the same price.
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Dextrr
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On 2008-08-09 06:09:50, se_dude wrote:
Not really, now that SE is incorporating WIfi and Gps into their feature phones the word smartphone will be a myth. Now only if they put in a document and a pdf reader. There are hardly many people out there who actually install symbian many applications in their phone.Maybe 1%.
1%? |
prototype_bo
Joined: Dec 15, 2006
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@ Mizzle
complete respect for the honest and truthful post on SE-NSE. i agree on all the points you have discussed.
couple of questions:
is the C905 good? or will it be a flop like the K850?
furthermore, can we consider the C905 as the start of Dick Komiyama reign?
you can't disclose any inside information (we all understand), but just simple hints: shall we anticipate GOOD models to come end of 2008, and starting 2009? something with a (K750) effect??
thanks again Mizzle,
no no, not done yet..
what is it with eldar these days???
"..Another noteworthy fact about this phone is that while it is still unavailable in Sony Ericsson's price list, many retailers already had a chance to play around with it and didn't come out enthusiastic about it. That's why it's safe to say that the C905 will follow in the footsteps of the K850i... "
extracted from his latest post on mobile-review
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makbil
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On 2008-08-09 02:02:54, apolloa wrote:
@Makbil, So what, that's one phone model, it does not define the entire Nokia or SE range. The N95 was successful to people who probably only ever use 50% of it's features.
You may be right in general. On the other hand, people such as myself use the full capabilities of the phone and we want them to work.
The bottom line is, for the past 2 years SE has been sitting on their backsides doing nothing but paint jobs while the competition kept improving their products. You can't explain this with the amount of resources a company has, it was this same SE that made the K750 and the P900.
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD |
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Posted: 2008-08-08 22:30
So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
