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When will K750i have 2M ccd not cmos? |
Grimslade
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The rumor originated at mobile-review.com, I believe, and I don't think Eldar Murtazin is an idiot. But there are some supposed comparison pictures around (maybe in these forums?), and the CCD sensor, if it's for real, doesn't appear to be worth waiting for. If you wait around for vaporware, you'd never buy anything! |
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azz0r
Joined: Jun 05, 2005
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As Im clueless....can someone explain what each one is and what the diffrence is? |
sunfury
Joined: Jun 24, 2004
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These are the two major technologies that remplace the chemical photograph film. CCD and CMOS have different pros/cons compared to each other.
You can check
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D30/D30A4.HTM
http://www.acdsystems.com/Eng[....]s/TechTips/tech-2001-10-25.htm
Long story short, CCD provides better quality with higher energy consumption. CMOS is cheaper and needs less energy, and gives a less satisfying image production. But with enough effort and engineering, CMOS can be as successful as CCD. Canon does it with his high-end (really high-end) cameras but this is the only case for now.
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Amras
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I've observed the capability of both camera in S700i and K750i. Do take a look at a few pictures I've taken by myself: http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=97843
My conclusion is that S700i produces images with higher contrast, K750i produces images that are paler. But, K750i in the end become the winner 'cause the color reproduction is so much natural, with lower noise and brighter, sharper and more detailed images - if only we're speaking about the difference between in S700i/K750i.
I assume the contrast and paleness differs in both phones are caused by the different sensors they have. One is CCD, the other is CMOS.
But, the overall quality of both pictures depends on many aspect. So can we jump into a conclusion that the next CCD phone camera from SE will be worse than the CMOS one? I think, we surely cannot since it's not what the issue is all about. 
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sunfury
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I think that K750i's camera desing is more complex than the S700's. And don't forget, autofocus is obviously a huge improvement and the overall structure of the camera is more important than just the CCD vs. CMOS comparison.
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Amras
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I agree that it's not just about the CMOS Vs. CCD issue.
I very recommend K750i since it has autofocus and macro mode capability. The macro mode is awesome. I can take sharp images from a distance below 15cm.
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the comparison i made.
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=97843
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vanquish
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On 2005-07-12 18:51:19, Grimslade wrote:
The rumor originated at mobile-review.com, I believe, and I don't think Eldar Murtazin is an idiot. But there are some supposed comparison pictures around (maybe in these forums?), and the CCD sensor, if it's for real, doesn't appear to be worth waiting for. If you wait around for vaporware, you'd never buy anything!
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An idiotic rumour then. 
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etaab
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The rumour started on mobile review, that a SE rep told them that later in the year the K750i would come with a new sensor - a CCD one, but would only be released in Russia.
The point is, it was just a rumour that chances are will never come true. Unfortunately 99 out of 100 people on this forum will always believe in the hype (that CCD is better than CMOS) and that they'll be able to pick which sensor they want in their K750i.
Fact is, if SE did replace the sensor, you'd never know unless you stripped the phone down to its component bits and knew what the CCD sensor looked like compared to the CMOS. I doubt anyone on this forum would be able to tell.
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vanquish
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It wouldnt make an amazing difference anyway, but ask yourself this. Why would  change something if the phone was already released and already selling well?
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etaab
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To cut costs most likely.
If SE were to use a different component, i doubt it would be to improve the phone but to simply cut production costs in order to make higher profits.
The whole CCD vs CMOS debate is pointless IMO - they're both quite as capable as each other.
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vanquish
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Exactly, so why did SE start up the rumour. you never know, maybe one of the guys has a sense of humour and likes to see forumers squabble 
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etaab
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On 2005-07-13 11:09:49, vanquish wrote:
Exactly, so why did SE start up the rumour. you never know, maybe one of the guys has a sense of humour and likes to see forumers squabble
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I dont think SE did start the rumour. It was just some stupid uninformed PR guy.
Probably the same one that said the S700i supported 1GB memory sticks before it was released.
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