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soulframe
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Posted: 2005-07-09 23:49
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I must appologise for what has happened to my thread. I did state a few times that it was for discussing the events of 07/07/05 but no body seemed to care. At the time I started the thread no one really knew what was going on, I just wanted to SHARE information on what was going on. Seeing as the event has passed I would request that mod close it now as it has turned downright sour. Please feel free to continue the subject matter in another thread, (which hopefully I won't post in) I shall from now on try my best to keep my political/religous views to my self.

Again sorry for any trouble I may have cuased.
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absinthebri
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Posted: 2005-07-09 23:56
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On 2005-07-09 23:48:31, scotsboyuk wrote:

I am actually rather heartened to hear that othe rmembers are as concerned with this issue as I am and pm the moderators with their concerns.




And I'm heartened that the moderators can see the difference between what is offensive and what is merely an attempt at censorship.
absinthebri
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Posted: 2005-07-10 00:00
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On 2005-07-09 23:49:37, soulframe wrote:

Again sorry for any trouble I may have cuased.




*You* didn't cause any trouble. It was/is generally a good thread. It seems that these sort of events naturally lead us to enquire into the nature of things and to look at causes.

People have different interpretations of the nature of the causes of it all, and that's where many unhelpful issues spring up from.
scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2005-07-10 00:01
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@soulframe

You didn't cause any trouble at all old boy. It is a shame that your thread was turned away from what you intended.

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Sammy_boy
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Posted: 2005-07-10 00:03
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On 2005-07-09 23:49:37, soulframe wrote:
I must appologise for what has happened to my thread. I did state a few times that it was for discussing the events of 07/07/05 but no body seemed to care. At the time I started the thread no one really knew what was going on, I just wanted to SHARE information on what was going on. Seeing as the event has passed I would request that mod close it now as it has turned downright sour. Please feel free to continue the subject matter in another thread, (which hopefully I won't post in) I shall from now on try my best to keep my political/religous views to my self.

Again sorry for any trouble I may have cuased.




It's not your fault, it's people threadjacking your thread! I have to admit I've decided not to post in it any more, the conspiracy theoriests and nutters have started now!
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke

BobaFett
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Posted: 2005-07-10 00:09
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@scotty i do remember our conversations in such threads once. We had mainly different opinions ;-) anyway, the decision is up to laffen and mods, how to manage the future of such threads. I stopped to visit them, however i am very interested in politic, religions etc and according of the different nationalities and opinions of the members, esato would be the perfect place to share and discuss opinions. But... I come to esato to keep a legend alive. And in my thread is always 'peace'...

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Sammy_boy
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Posted: 2005-07-10 00:12
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I remember me and axxxr having a few 'interesting' discussions, but we both kept it polite, no flaming or name calling, and using measured arguments and nothing inflammatory, If only everyone was a bit more considerate - as I said before, arguing (not debating - there is a difference) over the internet has to be one of the most pointless pastimes ever!
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke

absinthebri
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Posted: 2005-07-10 00:14
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On 2005-07-10 00:12:13, Sammy_boy wrote:
... as I said before, arguing (not debating - there is a difference) over the internet has to be one of the most pointless pastimes ever!




No it's not. You're wrong!

Sammy_boy
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Posted: 2005-07-10 00:16
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No, I'm right and everyone else is wrong!! I'll spend the next month of my life wearing my keyboard out proving it to you!!!

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absinthebri
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Posted: 2005-07-10 00:17
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On 2005-07-10 00:16:02, Sammy_boy wrote:
No, I'm right and everyone else is wrong!! I'll spend the next month of my life wearing my keyboard out proving it to you!!!






It's a conspiracy!

Jim
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Posted: 2005-07-10 01:18
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It depends of people posting actually, most of the time some doesn't listen to others arguments/comments but only those with the same idea and the minor side has to shut up and leave the thread (see latest Iraq thread), so what's the point of having the debate with only one side defending the arguments ?

Allthough I prefer a good difference of opinions some people don't know their limits and just asks for a flamewar.

Banning or not ? Good question, I'm for it unless more mature comments are posted but yeah the easy way is to ignore them
scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2005-07-10 01:21
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@masseur

I should say with regards to your comments about non-mobile threads; I do post in them and even create them. But there is a difference between a thread, which is not peppered with the potential for flaming (no matter how silly it may be) and one that will almost inevitable descend into petty squabbling and flaming.

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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2005-07-10 00:27 ]
OluYom
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Posted: 2005-07-10 06:39
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My experience with political/religious threads has been limited. Why?

The first such thread I posted in last year began to degenerate, so I simply walked away before it became too heated. But it seems that is too much for most people to do
I'd rather make friends than fight, anyday.

As such, I don't bother with such threads anymore. I simply ignore them and stay happy.

Whatever approach the mods take is okay with me. It may very well depend on laffen's vision for the forum.

Managing people can be a tough nut to crack.
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Pradhika
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Posted: 2005-07-10 07:17
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The dedicated Esato services should be on forever. Any decision in its favour must be appreciated.

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ThreeX
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Posted: 2005-07-10 13:44
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My opinion (public this time) is that this is a mobile phones (and related stuff) forum, and though i donīt want Esato to become a boring internet based helpdesk/knowledge base, i do believe in weeding out threads/topics not even remotely connected to the above mentioned. There are other forums, IRC and various messenger apps for chit-chatting about whatever issues.
IMO it doesnīt work with controlled political or religious matter-threads. Unfortunately itīs like leaving two pitbulls in a room and tell them both to behave.. I even have close friends with whom i never discuss certain matters, because we have found out in a peaceful way that we will never ever agree in our lifetimes. Unfortunately that solution is no good here, since thereīs always the 'got to have the last word' kind of people gathering around "hot" threads like flies around a cowpie.

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