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Wazuki
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Posted: 2005-07-09 16:09
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Buy Nokia N70!

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azz0r
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Posted: 2005-07-09 16:24
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What the hell is ccd?
michka
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Posted: 2005-07-09 16:35
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What the hell is Nokia??????
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vanquish
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Posted: 2005-07-09 17:56
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On 2005-07-09 14:45:27, Ibinco wrote:
@van So who has their fact straight? SE or Bengalboy. The SE website clearlty states that the w800i has 262K LCD. As i mentioned before...Bengalboy clear this up please




Hello there everyone!

I have very good (very very) sources that tell me in order to keep the cost of the W800 down low, the parts it is to be made with shall be made in a cheaper way. Some, not all.

CAN I JUST POINT OUT

(im sorry for the capitals, i want to make sure you guys believe me!!!)

That both phones have a 262k LCD. The Z600, T610 and T630 all had 65k LCD. But some were better quality than others. I am not saying the features are wrong, but the quality of the features. Do you see what im saying? The specs on the SE page, for example only, may say the K750i has a 262k screen. IT doesnt say that the K750i has a 262k CARBON screen, so technically the screen can be made of anything chooses, from cheap to quality. Sources have it that the W800 screen, as BengalBoy rightly points out (after all, he has used the phone) is not made of carbon and the screen is of lesser quality.

I am not lying, come on, the great scotsboyuk believes these rumours!
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numb
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Posted: 2005-07-09 18:18
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To quote bengalboys review he said about w800 exactly this:

"a high resolution 176 X 144 resolution, 65,000 color LCD display"

Just as he is wrong about the resolution which is not 176x144 but 176x220, he is also wrong about the 65.000 color lcd display

I have no idea how he got into his head that the lcd in w800 are of lower quality than the K750 (perhaps he was to preoccupied with taking pictures of the kittens), but I know for certain that its absolutely not true. LCD's are identical, so are the cameramodules used.

Furthermore he doesnt say anywhere in his review that quality of w800 is lower than k750, quite the opposite. He says he feels the materials used on w800 feels like better quality than the K750 he tried at CTIA. I'd disagree on his views on this, but thats up to the individual to deside.

Heres the quote on his views about this:

"My personal experience with both phones at CTIA in New Orleans this past March was that I preferred the W800i's housing and feel over the K750i. The W800i just felt "better". Its hard rubber keys and housing just felt more expensive and quality to me than the K750i's more plastic feeling keys and housing."

About keeping costs down, the W800 are allready more expensive than the K750 even though production cost should be the same (since hardware are identical, just a different casing), the higher salesprice of W800 is based on the extras (bigger memorystick and better headset) and the Walkman brand. This doesnt fit with your expectations that they should try to keep cost of production lower than on K750 by using lower quality components. Using lower quality components also would not fit the marketstrategy focusing on the walkman branded W800, this would definately make it a lesser value phone and hurt sales if this was true.

[ This Message was edited by: numb on 2005-07-09 17:27 ]
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Posted: 2005-07-10 08:53
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I can't wait for the W800a, sometime in October.

This is a good competition for Ipods in the U.S.
iphone rocks...
r3belll
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Posted: 2005-07-10 10:36
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Trust me no cometition for an Ipod . They cant fit 30 gb on a phone right plus there is a sizeable price difference expected between both the phones . So get a k750 and use the money you save to buy an ipod .
Arne Anka
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Posted: 2005-07-10 16:25
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Here in Sweden the estimated price for W800 at released has dropped to around 470 USD (390 EUR). Not much more than a K750.


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Posted: 2005-07-10 17:05
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well everybody just stop giving ur own views just wait for the release and then we will be able to make comparisons b/w w800i and k750i
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Posted: 2005-07-10 20:16
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hi everyone.... heres a few things to note about both phones (i own the K750i an have played directly with a W800 for a week...)

The K750i's screen does seem to be a tad bit clearer.... But the W800's screen shows up a bit more in bright daylight....

The battery on my K750i lasted about 2hrs longer from a full charge and NO use than the W800i's did....

And to be honest the camera shutter is much better on the K750i.... It starts the camera wen u open it, Which the w800i doesnt.... small but it makes a bit of difference.

The flight mode (music mode on the w800i) sounds great but u on a plane u still gotta try to explain to the air hostess that the phone is off!!! Which i doubt they will believe!

If u want an mp3 player i still recommend gettin a dedicated mp3 player.... as their volume and quality will always be a bit better and u get more space on them anyway.... as vanquish said....

BUY A K750I AND DO THE FIRMWARE CHANGE! BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!
vilde
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Posted: 2005-07-10 21:20
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voda_jon:
thanks for the information mate. but how do the camera compares between the two models? i heard some rumours that the w800i's camera is inferior to the k750i, is that true?
slass
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Posted: 2005-07-10 23:56
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On 2005-07-10 20:16:00, voda_jon wrote:
And to be honest the camera shutter is much better on the K750i.... It starts the camera wen u open it, Which the w800i doesnt.... small but it makes a bit of difference.



That's only with older firmware. When the phone is for sale, it will have an active camera shutter.
As for the photo/video quallity, it's exactly same as K750i.
(which sadly even means that first batch produced will have firmware with bad video recording bit rate, as on K750i)
vanquish
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Posted: 2005-07-11 10:48
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On 2005-07-10 20:16:00, voda_jon wrote:
hi everyone.... heres a few things to note about both phones (i own the K750i an have played directly with a W800 for a week...)

The K750i's screen does seem to be a tad bit clearer.... But the W800's screen shows up a bit more in bright daylight....

The battery on my K750i lasted about 2hrs longer from a full charge and NO use than the W800i's did....

And to be honest the camera shutter is much better on the K750i.... It starts the camera wen u open it, Which the w800i doesnt.... small but it makes a bit of difference.

The flight mode (music mode on the w800i) sounds great but u on a plane u still gotta try to explain to the air hostess that the phone is off!!! Which i doubt they will believe!

If u want an mp3 player i still recommend gettin a dedicated mp3 player.... as their volume and quality will always be a bit better and u get more space on them anyway.... as vanquish said....

BUY A K750I AND DO THE FIRMWARE CHANGE! BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!



i agree! [addsig]
hyperken
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Posted: 2005-07-11 12:11
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how good is w800?
can anyone give me more details?
since my country started to offer 3G service here any one ?????
voda_jon
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Posted: 2005-07-15 23:47
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its basically a K750i with a slightly poorer screen and dedicated mp3 player.... stick to the k750i an either:

1. get the fw changed to the w800i one, or
2. buy a dedicated mp3 player like i have done an get best of both worlds....

hope this helps a bit
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