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Vlammetje
Joined: Mar 01, 2003
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well... mince... I don't care. But people getting banned because they didn't know posting racist comments (for example) is not tolerated........ that's their problem isn't it?
MY point is..... if anybody wants to know what the ules are they can be found. Period. Not reading them is not an excuse for bad behaviour now is it?
And if anybody gets banned.... then I'm sure Team Esato has a good reason. And I'm sure this reason is nobody's business but that of Team Esato and the actual banned member.
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mince-inside
Joined: May 09, 2004
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From: Made in Alnwick living in Scot
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On 2004-08-26 11:02:53, Vlammetje wrote:
well... mince... I don't care. But people getting banned because they didn't know posting racist comments (for example) is not tolerated........ that's their problem isn't it?
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Excellent example - did @axxxr get a 'word' or the thread disappear showing the cars crashing whilst attempting to 'drift'?
The comments below had some of the most racist comments I've ever had the misfortune of reading and would have preferred not to
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MY point is..... if anybody wants to know what the ules are they can be found. Period. Not reading them is not an excuse for bad behaviour now is it?
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100% agree and I rely on my common sense as I do not have time to look for or read the rules (had a quick look whilst waiting on your reply for the 1st time and could not find anything(did not use search))
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And if anybody gets banned.... then I'm sure Team Esato has a good reason. And I'm sure this reason is nobody's business but that of Team Esato and the actual banned member.
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Why don't Team Esato post the banned list and reason or is that not the done thing on Forums?
Please don't get me wrong I'm just trying to understand what goes on and why
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Vlammetje
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well I don't know why but here's my view anyway.
WE do not need to klnow why any member got banned for a simple reason of privacy. But also because people may come back after a while (unbanned) and it would probably not serve their best interest as a 'born-again' member if everybody knew their past mistakes and could confront them again and again and again about it. Or worse: provoke them into getting themselves banned again. Or forever answering their posts by 'well you were banned so whatever you say has gotta be wrong anyway' I can see it now 
As of lately, esato attitude seems more and more like a (lynch) mob to me. I would certainly not put the above beyond the larger part of the member group.
It's not our business.... there is no 'hall of shame' here (thank god) and I really don't understand this perverted interest in 'who's been banned for what' by certain members.
We have moderators and admin. They decide. On their criteria. They don't answer to us, we answer to them. They make the rules, we follow. And if we don't, we get banned eventually. That is all there is to it imho.
Would you really want everybody to know if you were given a 3 week cooling off for whatever reason???
Just think about that for a minute.
[edit] Oh yeah... for those interested: FORUM RULES
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methylated_spirit
Joined: Jul 07, 2004
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@vlammetje: nice link!
I dont think that peoples dirty laundry should be aired, if they have done wrong the important thing is that they themselves know why, and, according to @kimcheeboi, he doesnt. He wants to know, which is a good thing, but maybe he shouldnt be getting others involved by pm'ing them. Why doesnt he e-mail a moderator, i'm sure they wold be happy to explain the error of his ways.
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mince-inside
Joined: May 09, 2004
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From: Made in Alnwick living in Scot
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Wow perverted because, having never heard of people getting banned, you want to know how and why people get banned quite a choice of word...
Lynch mob certain exisits e.g. the lad who claimed to work for SE
PS I'm not into the little face characters as much as you and jojo, what does the goggle eyes and saliva imply?
PPS Are Bold/Enlarged post as un-neccessary as CAPS posting (just reading the rules? 
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Vlammetje
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well....... as I've never been banned I don't know how that works.... but this thread appeared to me to be an open request to know why others have been banned... which is something I think is utterly wrong.
When somebody is banned he or she would do best to contact the site admin to get the full picture (although to me it would seem that usually one must have some idea of what it was that was off limits?  ) as other members obviously don't know either. But it is (obviously) not my or our concern to find out why any particular member was banned.
And a banned person being allowed to spam the PM boxes of others.... is a bit questionable as well, don't you think laffen? I know I wouldn't want to be dragged in to some dispute by people whio are not even supposed to be on the site anymore.
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mince-inside
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From: Made in Alnwick living in Scot
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Good point, so it appears half banned exists?
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methylated_spirit
Joined: Jul 07, 2004
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Unless its a permanent ban, maybe you still have access to some features? Where are the moderators, this issue needs clarifying.
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masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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@methylated_spirit, he does know exactly why because I PM'd him the reason and gave him a chance to reply, which he did so I know he read it. enough said about that.
I agree totally with Vlammetje's posts regarding this thread
Also the forum rules are on the page where you register. You can see that page if you click here (hmm... only works when you are not already logged)
Indeed it says at the top of the page...
Please read the Esato Forum rules before registering.
Any community, whether it is the community you live in, work in, play in or whatever has rules and guidelines that need to be followed in order to keep the peace. These rules help make this forum work but certainly do not cover every eventuality so common sense on the part of members is required to realise what is acceptable behaviour, and what is not, is also required and similarly the moderators will make a judgement on whether they think a post is appropriate.
I can assure you that banning is not taken lightly and I often make a a judgement based not only on the case in hand but also the past attitude of the person in question to determine whether this was a one off heat of the moment post or a trend from that person.
I am confident we will never have a hall of shame but I really hope we don't have to ban too many people
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energetic
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Since I was on vacation back then, can someone explain me what damo55 did as I have no idea what this is all about or at least send me a PM if its not allowed to be discussed in this topic? Was it the same guy who created the topic "Apology"?
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masseur
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No, please, lets keep individuals out of this and only talk generally about banning... if indeed we need to
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Vlammetje
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goodness........ energetic what's it to you???
erm..... to whomever inquired about the smilie....... i use it to illsutrate that I personally am stumped on the matter..... that I feel like an idiot... or that I think the topic at hand is idiotic.
I'd much like a 'Doh!' smilie but there isn't... so I tend to use this one instead. Not sure if that it was how it was intended though
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On 2004-08-26 12:06:49, mince-inside wrote:
Wow perverted because, having never heard of people getting banned, you want to know how and why people get banned quite a choice of word... |
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perverted because we obviously all know (or should know) that banning exists... wanting to know why somebody else has been banned.... to me certainly seems perverted. If I misunderstood I apologise but that is what I read iin this thread.
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On 2004-08-26 12:06:49, mince-inside wrote:
PPS Are Bold/Enlarged post as un-neccessary as CAPS posting (just reading the rules?
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forum rules can never be too much emphasized. 
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Ayush
Joined: Sep 12, 2003
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Ok then it it's settled. Kim knows why he's banned. Let's be happy again :-)
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masseur
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well for doh all I could find was  and 
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mince-inside
Joined: May 09, 2004
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From: Made in Alnwick living in Scot
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OK, so I'm not going to find out the procedure (unless I'm on the receiving end) OR how banned people can PM. I already fully understood that all Forums will have complete idiots/rebels/lynch mobs and how a list of banned people and reasons would only fuel their cause.
Seriously I did not know people could get banned hence my questions.
Apologies if my naivety raised anyone’s blood pressure unduly.
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