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jcwhite_uk
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Posted: 2004-08-01 18:18
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I do think that it weird though, that their mailing address is in Paris, France but the Fax number is for Spain!
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Sage
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Posted: 2004-08-01 19:23
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Fake escrow services that look genuine mainly. I have seen a few people scamming against genuine escrow services though. Not sure how, but its been done. Nothing is 100% safe.
buckle247
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Posted: 2004-08-01 20:03
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Something really doens't look right on that site, espcially if you look at the security certifiacate page, also looks quite fake.
Discover
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Posted: 2004-08-05 14:00
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MPX
To everyone concerned.

First, I leave in Paris at the moment. The address is incorrect. Zip code (31000) is NOT a Paris.., ALEE Jean Jaures does NOT exist in this city, only Avenue Jean Jaues does… Geographically, on the map provided on their site http://www.new-digital-electronic.com/index.php is a Gare Montparnasse – a railway station…
Their contact phone # (24/7) in Spain by the way is disconnected…
Anyway, I went and checked at the both possible addresses this morning…
What a Surprise… One is a railway station and another one is shady area in the 19 district of Paris.

Will call the French authorities in a few minutes…
Stay away from this site…
Jools
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Posted: 2004-08-05 14:44
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Following are the details on a WHOIS lookup on the domain.

The domain was only registered on the 22nd June this year, yet the copyright notice on the web-site says "2001 - 2004"

Also, here is where they copied the founders biography info from.

Domain Name.......... new-digital-electronic.com
Creation Date........ 2004-06-22
Registration Date.... 2004-06-22
Expiry Date.......... 2005-06-22
Organisation Name.... Ivar Tonnessen
Organisation Address. EDUARDO DATO 9
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. ZARAGOZA
Organisation Address. 50005
Organisation Address. IA
Organisation Address. SPAIN

Admin Name........... Ivar Tonnessen
Admin Address........ EDUARDO DATO 9
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ ZARAGOZA
Admin Address........ 50005
Admin Address........ IA
Admin Address........ SPAIN
Admin Email.......... new_digital_electronic2000@yahoo.com
Admin Phone.......... +1.662018036


masseur
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Posted: 2004-08-05 14:48
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I thought I recognised that whois info. I posted the same on the duplicate thread to this 2 days ago (which I have now just locked)
joebmc
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Posted: 2004-08-05 14:48
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They have a yahoo email For a company that looks bad (even for a fake one)
Jools
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Posted: 2004-08-05 14:52
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@massuer: Sorry, hadn't realised there was a duplicate thread!

I emailed the original owners of the biography info to let them know someone is using info from their site. Doubt they can do much about it, but you never know.

Also a quick google on the registrant of that domain comes up with a complaint on the scamwatch.com website (scroll down almost to bottom of page):

Complaint:

my brother order a mobilephone from digital electronics.He was then told to transfer money to a bank account. and given a account number.My brother then transfered 408 australian dollars but has had no phone turn up and their website has been shutdown. the acountholder's name where the money has been transfered is tonnessen ivar. the bank where the money was transfered is banco bilbao vizcaya argentaria fernando el catolico 62 50009 zaragoza oficina spain.


[ This Message was edited by: JoolsG3 on 2004-08-05 14:00 ]
masseur
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Posted: 2004-08-05 14:59
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not a problem. if I had noticed it earlier I would have locked one.

anyway I think you have proved beyond reasonable doubt that this site should be avoided so thats a good job
lordmat
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Posted: 2004-08-05 22:36
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fake they just wont your money (so do i):D
Sutitan
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Posted: 2004-08-05 22:57
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"Also, if you'll notice 99.99% of scams involve poor spelling and grammar, which this site does not entail of "

Ermmm....The name of the site is New Digital Electronics. On the site banner it says New Digial Electronics...whoops
chrisfirst
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Posted: 2004-08-07 00:08
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So they are cons.Well I'm not really surprised.I don't know why don't the goverments make some kind of proper cyber police to track these fcukers down?Unbelievable...
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Sage
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Posted: 2004-08-13 14:52
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Hehe didn't notice that one. Oh well, i knew it was a scam
Merovingian
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Posted: 2004-08-13 16:14
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that guy sound norwegian.. Ivar Tønnesen.. and it's a scam.. S700, 9500????? not out yet, nor one of them
kiratli
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Posted: 2004-12-31 02:02
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Quote:

On 2004-08-01 18:13:57, chrisfirst wrote:
Sage

I hope you will find something genuine but I'm agree with you.I'm 99% sure this is a scam as well.But you never know.As you mentioned there is a way to scam through Esrow.How?I think they have to send a goods and I'll pay after I received?Correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks





i have had connection from mail with that guys , and they said me that p900 all inclusief for 300 euro's. i decided to buy it. and i would like to pay de ups guys. because i do not trust anyone . and were oke with dat . i have one later de money transfer to a ups guys en i have nog idea how long its takes but my feelings say they are very fake . ik have e mail from upss and they told me its very busy there so i get no tracknumber . i do not know what i can do against this, maybe go to the police .but i have no idea... the site is no more online , and i lost all my e mails with that guy . so please can someone help me ? the guys ara nou in zaragoza in spain ,so read i it on the site of scrammers
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