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Posted: 2004-07-29 00:00
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On 2004-07-27 19:47:30, snap-hiss wrote:
... If you're going to listen to Fox News, you might as well listen to Michael Moore. You'll get information at the same level of unbiased from both.



LOL Snap, this made me laugh. Mainly because I'm a moore fan but also because of its truth. We get fox news down here in our lonely lil country and I have to say its one of the best late night comedies next to MadTV.
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Posted: 2004-07-29 00:18
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Not seen Fox since I left the USA permanently, but if it's anything like I remember....... I hear what you're saying snap
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Posted: 2004-07-29 02:34
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@paddy-what i think axxxr means by "respectable" is that it's not the Sun or the Herald

Tabloids make great bathroom reading, however

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Posted: 2004-07-29 10:35
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On 2004-07-29 02:34:00, KiMcHeEbOi wrote:
@paddy-what i think axxxr means by "respectable" is that it's not the Sun or the Herald

Tabloids make great bathroom reading, however





@KiKmEiNdAbOy - I know Fox sees things from a different view and reports them from the "right" side. But not much more skewed than, as @Axxxr put it, other credible news organizations. I had been asked if there was a neutral news agency to view here in the us because it appeared that all the news outlets in the US were skewed - either to the right or left. I agree with that - they are. So I work with what I've got to work with.

And even so... with Fox and CNN reporting the same thing on this story - where is the bias?
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Posted: 2004-07-29 10:49
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@KiKmEiNdAbOy - I know Fox sees things from a different view and reports them from the "right" side. But not much more skewed than, as @Axxxr put it, other credible news organizations. I had been asked if there was a neutral news agency to view here in the us because it appeared that all the news outlets in the US were skewed - either to the right or left. I agree with that - they are. So I work with what I've got to work with.

And even so... with Fox and CNN reporting the same thing on this story - where is the bias?



Fox news is like lets show whats happening around the world in 80 seconds,then do a bit of Bush ass kissing...then show how bad the muslim nations really are..then show some beheadings of u.s soildiers..then bit more of bush ass kiss...you get the idea!!
At least Patrick other "news channels"do not kiss bush butt.However the only credible news channel i think is the BBC.
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Posted: 2004-07-29 14:36
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On 2004-07-29 02:34:00, KiMcHeEbOi wrote:
@paddy-what i think axxxr means by "respectable" is that it's not the Sun or the Herald

Tabloids make great bathroom reading, however





@KiKmEiNdAbOy - I know Fox sees things from a different view and reports them from the "right" side. But not much more skewed than, as @Axxxr put it, other credible news organizations. I had been asked if there was a neutral news agency to view here in the us because it appeared that all the news outlets in the US were skewed - either to the right or left. I agree with that - they are. So I work with what I've got to work with.

And even so... with Fox and CNN reporting the same thing on this story - where is the bias?




Even the so called left media outlets are limited in what they can show. CNN or MSNBC or whoever is considered left is not anywhere near as left as FOX is right.


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Posted: 2004-07-29 16:44
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Well everyone - since Fox News was just too much to the Right for you ... and CNN didn't convince you either ... Let's take a look at the BBC.

Kerry aide quits over 9/11 probe

Samuel Berger, under investigation for removing classified documents, has resigned as adviser to Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.


John Kerry (left) said Berger served his nation "with honour"

Mr Berger, who was national security adviser to former US President Bill Clinton, took secret papers from the National Archives.

He has admitted inadvertently taking copies of a classified memo while preparing to address the 9/11 inquiry.

He has said it was "an honest mistake" and voiced "deep regret".

Mr Berger was acting as an informal adviser on foreign policy matters to John Kerry.

'My friend'

Mr Kerry said he supported Mr Berger's decision to leave the campaign.

"Sandy Berger is my friend and he has tirelessly served this nation with honour and distinction," he said.

"I respect his decision to step aside as an adviser to this campaign until this matter is resolved objectively and fairly."

The bipartisan commission investigating the 11 September 2001 terror attacks on New York and Washington is due to deliver its final report on Thursday.

Mr Berger testified in March before the commission, which has examined all aspects of the attacks.

Samuel Berger

As Mr Clinton's national security adviser, he was questioned about the Clinton administration's response to the al-Qaeda threat.

In preparation for his testimony, he reviewed thousands of pages of classified terrorism and security documents in a secure reading room at the National Archives in Washington.

It was during this work, according to Mr Berger and his lawyers, that he removed notes he had made about the anti-terror papers he consulted.

He also inadvertently took copies of actual documents.

He returned them all, but some copies of a 1999 intelligence report on terrorist plots to disrupt the millennium celebrations are still missing. Mr Berger believes he may have inadvertently discarded them.

Co-operating

"I deeply regret the sloppiness involved but I had no intention of withholding documents from the commission, and to the contrary, to my knowledge, every document requested by the commission from the Clinton administration was produced," Mr Berger said in a statement to the Associated Press.

Mr Berger's lawyer, Lanny Breuer, says his client has offered to co-operate fully with the investigation and has not yet been charged with anything.

Mr Berger served as President Clinton's national security adviser from 1997 to 2001.
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Posted: 2004-07-29 16:49
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The only problem I have with the BBC story is they took Berger's excuse as fact and report that everything he did was "inadvertent". How would the BBC know that he didn't take these documents and destroy (not accidentally discard) some with an intent to remove evidence of how President Clinton handled terrorist threats during his administration? Honestly, Mr. Berger was the National Security Adviser and well aware of the security measures regarding such documents and well aware that he couldn't just take some home. Heck - he admitted to shoving some into his PANTS - for the love of gawd!
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@patrick really why bother anything u say that has to do politics is somehow turned into bush did this and that'people cut the crap we know bush sucks but also i like to hear what people have to say about the other canidate because u will soon see kerry and all his im for everyone and that will bite him in the ass ok im done for now this wap posting sucks will have highspeed up saturday

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Posted: 2004-08-06 19:20
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On 2004-07-29 23:06:13, ADT0079 wrote:
we know bush sucks ...



I don't necessarily agree with you. Care to defend this position?

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but also i like to hear what people have to say about the other canidate because u will soon see kerry and all his im for everyone and that will bite him in the ass



His "im for everyone"? sorry... didn't understand that one.

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ok im done for now this wap posting sucks will have highspeed up saturday



How is High Speed treating you? I love my broadband connection.
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Posted: 2004-08-06 20:28
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1 i just dont think bush is fit to be pres he has made some bad choices in his 4 years in office as you have heard in other threads i just think that someone else in office would be a wise move politicly 2 what i meant by the second statement was That kerry is trying to hard to make everyone like him eg:im a war hero but i didnt agree with the war veitnam-like me cause i fought for this country but also like me cause i opposed it. 3 had broadband just moved but up now i love my broadband but use wap alot

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