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bacanito
Joined: Feb 09, 2004
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From: Montrizzle my nizzle (Canada)
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@boba
Not sure about what you mean by marketshare, but if you mean which part of the market belongs to CDMA and GSM, i would say approximately 70%-30% respectively here in Canada...hopefully the tables will turn in the future 
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*Jojo*
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@jowi- My Nokia 636 (1995) has no sim card as well. I'm 'lined' with Smart back then! |
BobaFett
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From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
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Where else in the world are still cdma system in use?
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Supa_Fly
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From: Toronto, Ontario
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bacanito,
good job but since your really new in Canada the oldest cellular technology actually was TDMA which is what Rogers AT&T Wireless used. Now since April (officially November 2001) have launched GSM/GPRS and their coverage especially with upgraded towers to 850Mhz to improve voice quality and RANGE of GPRS is significantly larger than Fido's - Montréal & my personal favorite. Now their called Rogers Wireless and if you want better coverage you should check them out. Their Nationally competitive with signal range just like the other Big2 TelusMobility (whom bought out Clearnet - of which their Mike Net network actually does use SIM cards but NOT for GSM/GPRS just for settings of the network; really strange) & Bell Mobility.
However Roger Wireless is long overdue to launch EDGE over GPRS this summer so look for that as well (their testing in Vancouver). Don't get me wrong your good kid pretty good kid but with respect to CDMA at least in Canada is as old as Rogers' TDMA it just seems more popular because you have 2 cellular companies of the 4 (yes four not including the resellers) that market CDMA2000 1xRTT and 1 gorrilla that markets GSM/GPRS - Fido is the underdog (pun intended) but is coming up strong which I'd be happy with if they would take my hard earned cash for FullControl.
USIM's are what they have in Japan due to W-CDMA and the compatibility with CDMA & GPRS terminals.
W-CDMA or UTMS is were ALL cellular providers in North America will eventually end up.
PS try to tell which provider someone is on if their using a P800, Nokia 8390, Motorola V60 or V66 when their using it in Canada and did have it purchased subsidized here while their on the phone and you cannot see the branding. Guess what you can't because Fido & Rogers sold all those phones with the same faceplate options at nearly the same time - 3 years for teh Motos & Nokia that I mentioned. |
jack02
Joined: Feb 27, 2004
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Hey i have a se clamshell w built in camera phone bought in japan w/o sim card. Now i used it as a dummy phone bec. 8 doesnt work here (ph)
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wapt
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@Boba, South Korea is the main cdma player besides the US. The big networks providers are SK and KT. China has a cdma network but with a modification, smartcard called UIM was also introduced to the cdma handsets. It has the same size as SIM/U-SIM. This operator runs both GSM and cdma networks, which way only a Hong Kong operator and Austalia Telstra ever did as I know. Other areas with cdma cellular networks I know are India and some east Europe countries, probably there is one on 450M in Russia.
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BobaFett
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@wapt thx. Is there any difference in case of quality and services between cdma and other system?
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rencomp
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In Australia, both Telstra and Yes Optus are running a GSM and CDMA network....Better coverage in rural places and high speed data are some positive things about CDMA, a negative thing is the price you have to pay for it...
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BobaFett
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@rencomp how do u mean the price? Are the fones more expensive or only the service. What about the desert in au? Sat fone only or gsm etc is working aswell.
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bacanito
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From: Montrizzle my nizzle (Canada)
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@ prom
As my one of my replies states, I'm far from an expert, this much I know, just in case I passed for a know-it-all hehe
However, I'm not new in Canada, I was born and raised in Montreal, but moved to Switzerland for 3 years. Thats when I became interested in cell phones cuz before I left, I couldnt have cared less about a cell phone...I had my pager and thats all I wanted lol
I did work for Bell Mobility for a year, but as I also mentioned, anything that has to do with CDMA & TDMA is not on my A-list, I just paid enough attention to be able to do my job right lol Let's just say most people don't ask about the complicated stuff...
Anyhow, I just realized I'm not the only Canadian on esato.com.....nice... 
P.S. I am hoping that Fido gets out of that jam, I was so scared of becoming a TELUS customer lol
P.P.S. I used to love that very first Clearnet phone, the Sony one hehe
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rencomp
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@bobafett
well, in the dessert the only thing available is SAT Phone, but GSM coverage is also nice when your on the road (on the east coast) and yes the service is more expensive
here some info from the Telstra website (your are one wap so here it is)
Selecting the Right Network
To help you select the right network we have provided some pointers below.
Digital GSM
GSM typically supports customers who :
primarily use their mobile service within capital cities and metropolitan areas
want good in-building coverage in capital cities and metropolitan areas
need their mobile phone while travelling overseas
Outbound Roaming
GSM also allows access to GPRS using a GPRS compatible handset.
Digital CDMA
CDMA typically supports customers who :
live in capital cities or metropolitan areas but regularly travel outside these areas
want coverage in more places across Australia than any GSM network
live outside of metropolitan areas
Satellite
Satellite typically supports customers who :
want coverage almost everywhere in Australia
particularly in rural and remote areas
@bacanito
the only man from Canada, well goodmorning over there
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b-chill
Joined: Jun 05, 2003
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Prom1: The USIM card is only for 3g utms afaik. they are nonetheless used in the european 3g networks... but i must admit, dont know about the japanese ones... but i think its the same case there:
usim for 3g, no-sim for none 3g.. I could be wrong, what do you think
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BobaFett
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@rencomp thx. Does they use the /// r290 too?
@bacanito is cdma the same in the us and canada? I mean the system and services.
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wapt
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@Boba, Think as 2G systems, both GSM and cdma can provide good service. IMO, the most important is the quality of network equipment and the operation.
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BobaFett
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@wapt ni hao! What about cdma in china?
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Posted: 2004-06-13 00:37
