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Jools
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Posted: 2004-06-09 08:57
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@Gelfen: Did you read the article I linked to in my previous post?

It explains that even if Mac OS X had the biggest market share, there simply aren't the methods and holes in the OS for viruses to latch on to and distribute themselves. The OS is more secure in the first place so viruses, trojans, and malware can't get a foothold anyway!
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Posted: 2004-06-09 09:14
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i did read it, but i've seen better arguments from both sides (i'll try to find some) and i think that article is a little too self-serving and ignores a few things. for one, it assumes that even in a mac-dominated world malware would be of the same form as it is now. windows operates a certain way, so malware is geared in that direction and consequently is less compatable with mac. it also ignores the fact that malware is designed for maximum penetration and disruption, and so why bother trying to crack a more secure system when hardly anyone uses it? finally, if mac useage grew to windows proportions the sense of "community" that the article discusses would cease to be and malware proliferation would go on unhindered, especially since the user base would be markedly different in nature and attitude.

i'm really not interested in the mac vs. windows debate, i just find it annoying how people get so one-eyed about it. both systems have strengths and weaknesses, so make a choice and be happy.

EDIT: found one of the articles i was looking for. although it's about MyDoom and mentions open source, it has a good points about software "security".

MyDoom is YourDoom

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Posted: 2004-06-09 10:45
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Firstly, this isn't a general Mac vs PC debate - we're talking about one specific issue: security. I know very well that Macs & PCs both have their advantages and disadvantages (I use both daily in my job) - I'm not getting 'one-eyed' about it, so no need to get annoyed!

But, when it comes to security the Mac does have the upper hand. Yes, I know that it is possible to write malware for Macs, but at the moment (and for the foreseeable future) if you choose to use a Mac you're pretty safe. And let's face it, Macs will never increase their marketshare significantly past the current 3-5% so will remain a very low priority for malware creators - another plus point.
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Posted: 2004-06-09 12:32
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Well I read somewhere that hackers are not writing viruses for the mac because its too difficult to look for vulnerabilities. Where as its a lot easier in windows.
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Posted: 2004-06-09 12:49
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@axxxr, i agree macs are more stable than pc's

makes me wanna buy a powerbook!!! :-/
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Posted: 2004-06-10 02:51
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it also depends what you want it for.
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Posted: 2004-06-10 02:53
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Want it for everything i do on windows and for things i cant do on windows. [addsig]
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Posted: 2004-06-10 03:03
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such as? (i ask out of curiosity, not derision)
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Posted: 2004-06-10 03:12
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For a start i do like Office for Mac its far superior in form and function
But thats just a start..i overal prefer the OS..look & feel etc..

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Posted: 2004-06-10 03:25
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i am aware of certain mac-only scientific applications, especially in chemistry, but is there really anything that a mac can do that a pc can't?

you may be interested in this series of articles from ZDNet:

A Month With a MAC
What happens when you make a long-time PC worker use a Mac? First of all, all the little differences come to the fore.

or this one too

As the Mac turns 20, has the PC caught up?
The Apple Mac turns 20...but the real question is not has it grown up, but are PCs now as impervious to gecko lizards?
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Posted: 2004-06-10 03:34
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I agree that a PC can pretty much what a mac can but there certain tasks Apps which can only run on macs..at this moment in time i cannot remember which ones.(its like 2.30am here).But just for the fact alone that macs never crash and never catch a virus or a worm is enough to comvince me to convert..Since my pc caught the blaster worm couple of weeks ago had to call up microsoft several time to get it fixed.I've totally been put off by windows..its one of series of probs i've had with my pc...

By the way what time is it in oz?? [addsig]
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Posted: 2004-06-10 03:39
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Top Ten Reasons to Switch to a Mac
http://www.apple.com/switch/whyswitch/

Switching to Mac: Real Stories
http://www.apple.com/switch/stories/

Mac OS X is just plain beautiful
http://www.apple.com/switch/press/ [addsig]
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Posted: 2004-06-10 03:41
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that's fair enough i suppose. i have *touch wood* so far avoided any serious issues with viruses on my personal PC (not so much on the work one, but that was the IT dept's fault) because i try to keep my security as up to date as possible. it probably helps that i mostly only use it at weekends, so when a virus or patch notification comes out mid-week i update before i do anything else. i know that's not bullet-proof, but i've been lucky so far.

oh, it's about 11:40 am here.
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Posted: 2004-06-10 03:46
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Cool!...Well looks like the days just begun for u..Time i should be hitting the sack! [addsig]
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Posted: 2004-06-10 05:20
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i'd be a little skeptical of apple telling you to buy apple (as i wuold with MS saying "buy MS"). i'm not denying the truth of it, just be wary of rose coloured glasses.
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