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Wi-Max is the future for Cell Phone world |
floke
Joined: Jan 23, 2002
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@Kimcheboy: If you think a couple of years back you might remember the waiting for Bluetooth and Wi-Fi products. When they finally came to the market they were buggy an hard to use or eating battery in the Wi-Fi case.
Nokia making Wi-Max phone? I guess they're not so intrested anymore?
Nokia quits Wimax
They mention Mobile devices but in the sence of replacing WiFi for Laptops, PDAs and so on and not for telephony IMO...
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kimcheeboi
Joined: Dec 19, 2003
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I have a Toshiba WI-Fi enabled PocketPC and it doesn't even use that much battery 
Maybe thats why I paid so much for it 
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floke
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Nowadays they dont eat batteries but they used to do it for a couple of years.
I bet the same will happen with WiMax...
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Scally_cadet
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Sorry. Meant to say UWB is a replacement for Bluetooth.
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W-T
Joined: Apr 29, 2004
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Interesting views guys. Few years back, I read A report which says that most of the telecom companies have spent a lot of money to get 3G license. That leaves them with no more money needed to put the necessary infrastructure to support 3G. In an article from latest cebit fair, Intel wrote "move over 3G, here comes wimax".The article says that wimax will be cheaper to implement becauce the coverage area per station will be 10x wider (50km) approximately than 3G and 10x faster than 3G. Intel has talked to nokia about wimax and win its support at that time. The different between the 2 apart from speed is that 3 G's supports voice and data while wimax only support data. So in my humble opinion , I think if 3G takes too long to be implemented, it could be taken over by wimax since it will be cheaper.Regarding voice support , I don't think it is going to be a problem since wimax will be 10x faster(through voip). What do you think guys?
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Scally_cadet
Joined: Oct 02, 2003
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Wi-Me isnt a threat to 3G. Its a threat to 4G. 3G is now working, Wi-Me havent got any products yet. Remember tho that T-mobile is intrested in have a combined 2G/3G/Wi-Fi network.
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shahzadkhan72
Joined: Apr 22, 2004
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Hi all (esp. W-T),
Don't mean to offend any 3G lover but it is definitely not a GO for Gulf. The only country that has implemented 3G so far is Bahrain, well it is a country smaller than San Francisco.
People, anywhere, don't like to carry laptops with cell phones, at the same time they want the freedom of video conferencing or "work from home". To comply to all these luxury, GSM, CDMA, 800,850, 900, 1800, not even 1900 can't fulfill the requirement.
I remember the days when working for some GSM department; I came to know that they use high level compression besides encryption so that they can transmist the voice data at 13Kb/s (not byte).
There are two things that we need to clearly understand, one is end-user and the other is service provider. For end-users, all they care is about the service but imagine when the service provider has a everything maintained under one GUI and NMS/EMS (Telecom terms), they will definitely go for it. In this manner, they will sell the service cheaper and it will be less with mistakes.
But to be honest, WireLess is the futre. I have my fingers crossed on WiMax. And besides disliking Bill Gate's products, I still believe that his company made me believe that WiMax is surely gonna hit the market very soon.
Pleaes take care and drive safely, remember someone is waiting for you.
Shahzad Khan
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Jim
Joined: Jan 20, 2002
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From: Belgium
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I think that Sweden, Japan and other countries have allready 3G. Even my country ... !
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shahzadkhan72
Joined: Apr 22, 2004
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Dear all,
Don't get me wrong that 3G is not a GO for other countries. I was only talking for GULF.
The thing is, we need to consider few facts in 3G; bandwidth, cost per bandwidth, equipment need to maintain the network, support, bigger backbone to carry the traffic and so on.
With WiMax, you can have a NT port on some switch and LT can be your mobile cell phone (smart phone), and this switch can be connected to anyone 1G or 10G switch (Ethernet switches). Cheap 10G switches are available by major Chinesee companies. Build your IP backbone, provide acces switches and voila... you are kicking.
Well, someone can question QoS in IP as compare to ATM. Well true, that there is no QoS (Quality of Service) there BUT... the new IEEE 802.?? (sorry I forgot  ) that is RPR... it provides you similar to QoS besides CoS (Class of service).
The essense of all above is; building high speed networks is quite cheap these days. Core network and access switches... thats all... you (as service provider) and end-users both are happy at low cost (two way)
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Payalnik
Joined: Jan 01, 2004
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Someone mentioned that the capability of wimax access point is limited to 100. And i dont think that will work with the usual battery. It must consume a lot!
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shahzadkhan72
Joined: Apr 22, 2004
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Hi all,
I am back.
But with a news... good for Wi-Max lover and bad for GSM, 3G lovers.
The first IP Cell phone is out as I forcasted by Fujitsu. Please see the link
http://www.fujitsu.com/news/p[....]es/month/2004/20040623-01.html
Now the other part is IEEE 802.16e is a Wi-Max standard for mobility. It will be soon approved. Then I don't see anything stopping Cell Phone Networks replacement by Wi-Max.
Just for your records, Nokia has rejoined the Wi-Max forum. Well you can guess what does it mean. As Wi-Fi got a defecto standard, Wi-Max is gonna rule the market.
By posting here I am urging Cisco and other major players like Lucent (my x-company) and etc to start focusing on Wi-Max.It is a future. The crazy technology (Wi-Max) can work with Line-of-Sight (LoS) or Non-LoS signal. Of course for Non-LoS there is are limitations. But hey, we (technical guys) all know that there is no such technology that penerates the mountain as some salesmen claim. Its always via reflections.
So, get your gears ready for Wi-Max and be ready to see Cell Phone networks getting replaced by Wi-Max. My forcast is 2008, it can happen sooner or later. Only God knows the best.
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TechnologyLover
Joined: Jun 29, 2004
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mr. khan,
i respect ur view but as far we are aware that 802.16e is not approved yet. why did u say wimax can replace cell phone carriers and why not wi-wan (802.20)?
can wimax be used as back-haul?
what is the maximum throughput can we have?
what about the radiation?
do u know if lucent, siemens, cisco are into wimax?
there are so many holes and questions, I dont think if this will fly |
Sage
Joined: Apr 17, 2003
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Nvm
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Residentevil
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Let's just wait and see, before everybody jumps on the hype bandwagon.
Tough times don't last, tough people do!
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deanb
Joined: Jul 15, 2004
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According to Intel, Wi-Max won't even be appearing in laptops until 2006-7.
Given the likely power consumption & integration issues for the chips & software, that probably means 2008 for high-end smartphone/P900-type PDA hybrids with big batteries & form-factor, and 2009-10 for "normal" phones.
In a nutshell: don't hold your breath while waiting. |
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Posted: 2004-05-18 17:49
