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A year in prison for taking pics with a cameraphone |
masseur
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Here is a couple of examples of some done in the UK (of the notorious Harold Shipman) and they certainly do resemble him very well (and probably many of those around him too). It does seem strange that this much detail can be drawn and published when photos cannot
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Vlammetje
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oh well those would not be allowed here at all.
and strange or not, those are still the rules. It's not ok to break the law just because it's a strange law 
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gelfen
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they're pretty good, but for the most part you would have to know the person already to recognise them in those pictures. if you saw that on the nightly news then one of those people walked past you the next day, you might think they looked familiar but you wouldn't necessarily be able to say "hey, weren't you in the courtroom sketch from that trial on the news?"
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masseur
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oh yeah, I'm not disagreeing with your comments about the law, just highlighting the inconsistency. a year does seem a bit harsh when some people who are convicted of manslaughter or are an accessory to such can get away with 3 or 4 years (or less after good behaviour etc)
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bossjohnc
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Don't agree with the bloke breaking the law, but surely something like a large fine or some smaller punishment is enough of a deterrant?? People commit far worse crimes over here and get away with it because police are too busy to care.
In summary, what he did was wrong, but the punishment was FAR too harsh. Of course there could be more to it...
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gelfen
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in this case though, the law is about protecting the "sanctity and integrity of the justice system". if the guy took pervy shots in a changeroom he probably would still have got lesser penalty, but because he broke the law in court the penalty was harsher. any crimes against the instruments of the justice system (courts, police, etc.) are usually more harshly dealt with than crimes against the general public.
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energetic
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@masseur
I totally agree with you.
And lets not forget those who kill hundreds and thousands of people. And getting away with it.
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Vlammetje
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those are the ones that havwe the justice system in their piocket though, not the other way around 
and like i said, it's never wise to challenge a magistrate on his own turf. They don't like it as they think themselves almighty in their own court room. They do not take kindly to it. never have.
Like it or not, it really is THAT simple.
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gelfen
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On 2004-05-27 09:39:24, Vlammetje wrote:
They don't like it as they think themselves almighty in their own court room.
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that's kinda because they are.....
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Vlammetje
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so stop the whining in this thread already
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masseur
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whining?  I thought we were "discussing" the relative harshness of the sentence and the inconsistencies in the law
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gelfen
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i'm not whining. throw the book at the guy (for stupidity alone if nothing else)
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Vlammetje
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hmmm that's not a book 
whining is directed at the first page where the sentence is deemed 'unjust' for the 'minor offense' of taking piccies 
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mixin
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On 2004-05-27 08:59:54, masseur wrote:
what is interesting is that while photos cannot be taken in court, artists can make drawings of the defendant etc and these can, and are, published in newspapers and shown on TV news etc and very often are quite life like
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I do believe these arent allowed to be drawn in the court room either. The artist would have to run off to the toilet the jot down the image, then colour it in later 
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Posted: 2004-05-27 09:20
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