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doubleduh Joined: Mar 21, 2002 Posts: 436 From: Culemborg, The Netherlands PM, WWW
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I'd rather pay...
1MB €8.40 €8.40
5MB €12.61 €2.52
20MB €37.82 €1.89
50MB €84.03 €1.68
...for GPRS on Vodafone 
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Yann Joined: Dec 23, 2001 Posts: 35 From: Paris, France PM |
I agree i-mode, as markup language, is a poor enabler for Mobile Internet. The best, i-mode will do for our European market, is to develop Content providers market, thanks to the reverse billing and marketing strategy.
Here in France, we need to see Operator's minds to evolve toward a sharing process to extend and enhance services provided by them AND others providers, thus to offer to the end-user a true choice for mobile services. i-mode will introduce more deeply this such process |
duncanb99 Joined: Apr 30, 2002 Posts: 137 From: South London PM |
In Europe any I-Mode service will be provided over GPRS, so it is not a case of GPRS being 'worse' than I-Mode (or 'better').
As other posters have pointed out the only real difference between the GPRS we currently have and I-Mode services are tariff structure and content. GPRS 'content' certainly could do with some improvement if the Telco's expect to make money from it.
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Yann Joined: Dec 23, 2001 Posts: 35 From: Paris, France PM |
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On 2002-05-15 11:12, duncanb99 wrote:
GPRS 'content' certainly could do with some improvement if the Telco's expect to make money from it.
Dunc
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AND content providers too (thanks to i-mode revenue sharing Biz model). Telcos won't be able to satisfy all market segment without having highly specialized third parties dedicated to specific customers.
That's why i-mode is good for mobile market.
Enablers like GPRS, color screens, more mature WAP (UAProf, M-Services,...) or cHTML are each one a brick of the whole thing that could make Mobile Internet a reality. |
verko Joined: Dec 05, 2002 Posts: 18 From: belgium PM, WWW
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have any of you guys actually tested imode?
I've had it for about a month now and i use the new nec n22i with 4096 colored screen, 40 tone polyphonic, integrated antenna, 500 phonenumbers, 400sms full ems!! i-mail (email) i pay 6€ a month for 20mb of data and there are so many free sites that i havent registerd to any official pay site, i can use icq and msn mesenger, and i can also visit any classic wap site and quite a lot of normal sites.
mms is a pure messaging service, and with vodaphone live you pay quite a lot for youre data + extra for nearly any service you want
+ imode is a succes in europe in december there were 100.000 subscribers in holland, belgium and germany, half way januari there are 200.000 theyre going for the 1.000.000 bye the end of 2003. and now that samsung, siemens and others are going to produce european imode phones it can only get better, mark my words cebit 2003 is going to be verry surprising when it comes to imode in europe!!
http://www.i-mood.be/viewtopic.php?t=6
i have the one on the left
buy the summer europe is going to see it's first clamshel dual colour screen phones with integrated camera, mms and of course imode
verko
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Andy_P Joined: Jun 10, 2002 Posts: > 500 From: Warwickshire PM |
Not sure if I've ever posted this on here, but with respect to GPRS deals I have a bit of a blinder:
I pay £30 p.m. for unlimited GPRS.. use it on my lappy with BT as permanent internet connection (obviously dictated by signal which ain't great around here) and it works a treat...
Can't wait for the P800 so I can use it properly though... |
Ruvjet Joined: Mar 22, 2002 Posts: 268 PM |
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On 2003-01-27 14:42, verko wrote:
have any of you guys actually tested imode?
I've had it for about a month now and i use the new nec n22i with 4096 colored screen, 40 tone polyphonic, integrated antenna, 500 phonenumbers, 400sms full ems!! i-mail (email) i pay 6€ a month for 20mb of data and there are so many free sites that i havent registerd to any official pay site, i can use icq and msn mesenger, and i can also visit any classic wap site and quite a lot of normal sites.
mms is a pure messaging service, and with vodaphone live you pay quite a lot for youre data + extra for nearly any service you want
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I agree with what your saying. It seems a lot of people in this thread have never used i-mode. N22i sounds like a good handset, N31i looks even better.
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+ imode is a succes in europe in december there were 100.000 subscribers in holland, belgium and germany, half way januari there are 200.000 theyre going for the 1.000.000 bye the end of 2003.
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nice figures, but thats 200,000 in nine months.
Vodafone live! just did 380,000 between Oct 25th and Dec 31st.
Projected at 1 million by April.
I-mode needs a bigger ad campaign and a few more countries in Europe. |
verko Joined: Dec 05, 2002 Posts: 18 From: belgium PM, WWW
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thanks for the positive and realistic comments.
The problem is mainly here in belgium you don't get the phone cheaper if you take a contract it's against the law, and seeing as the imode phones arent the cheapest, you get the pic. And base the belgiun imode network only has about 1.5 milion users and to be honest some financial problems so they cant promote the service the way theyd like to.
Imode is available in france and spain as well but the 200.000 users is just belgium, holland and germany. in holland they sell an imode contract every minute so it's really starting to take of
cheers
verko
www.i-mood.be
visit my personal site about i-mode www.i-mood.be nec n34i + postpaid 3 + imode |
Ruvjet Joined: Mar 22, 2002 Posts: 268 PM |
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On 2003-01-27 15:47, verko wrote:
thanks for the positive and realistic comments.
The problem is mainly here in belgium you don't get the phone cheaper if you take a contract it's against the law, and seeing as the imode phones arent the cheapest, you get the pic.
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So how much is the N22i without a contract?
Can you send pictures/sounds with your emails?
and does the email come to you like an sms, or do you have to go online to get it?
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And base the belgiun imode network only has about 1.5 milion users and to be honest some financial problems so they cant promote the service the way theyd like to.
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This is DoCoMo's biggest problem. The networks they have chosen to partner are mostly weak in their respective countries, meaning low marketing budgets..
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Imode is available in france and spain as well but the 200.000 users is just belgium, holland and germany. in holland they sell an imode contract every minute so it's really starting to take of
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Spain could change everything. Telefonica are the biggest network there I believe. they plan to start selling i-mode sometime this year.
In France I understand it has taken off really well, with a cool trendy image..
as for Holland, I hear Vodafone Live contracts outsell i-mode 5 to 1.
http://www.pmn.co.uk/20021216vodafone.shtml |
arroyootje Joined: Feb 01, 2002 Posts: > 500 From: UK-Belgium-Azerbaijan PM |
The imode phones cost about 300 or 400 euros without contract. I agree that obviously no one has tried i mode cos they would then know that it is bloody fantastic! I pay 6.5 euros a month for 10mb so that is really cheap. I have my own i mail address and can send messages through messenger programs and download everything, send emails or i mails haha... It's great once you have it! Base...
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