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mariolouis
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Posted: 2003-07-16 10:02
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@kap
Q4 of 2003 speculatively. but they are not releasing the complete specs and the exact date of release coz as they say it will cause a drop in sales of the e100.

@opaw
hope you don't mind, i'll answer your question. reviews say that the battery of the tanager has improved over the original spv (canary). battery life is comparable to the newer pocket pc's. depending on usage, the average charge life is 24-48 hrs. mine lasts 1 1/2 days.
DubWireless
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Posted: 2003-07-16 20:05
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yeah - i sure wouldn't like to be away from the power adapter for much more than 24hours

was surprised they didn't include any option to store/backup calender and contacts in non-volatile mamory (the 'file store' or Permanent PIM/Save as it is usually called on the Pocket PC devices)

it does enter into a conservation mode once battery life remaining hits a certain point (about 20%), disabling apps like Windows Media from running to limit the drain on the remaining charge left

hth,
BrianG


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fijbert
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Posted: 2003-07-16 21:06
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that sux
does it hv expandible memory slots? what kind of memory?
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DubWireless
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Posted: 2003-07-17 02:02
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power wise - it depends what you are doing with it to be honest (but like any smartphone if you use its 'smart' features intensively it will drain faster than using it as a regular ' voice' handset) - at the moment i'm pushing it like mad - MP3s, video, games, web, IM etc... the multimedia would be the biggest drain ('specially the video)

memory wise - it takes standard SD and MMC cards - i've got a 256MB in it at the moment with a some episodes of Futurama (played back thru' PocketTV, a load of MP3s and installed some games and apps on it too

at least it takes a more standard memory option than a MemoryStick Duo...



hth,
BrianG


p.s. that's not the correct way to install the MSDuo into a P800 - but the back of it doesn't make for a meaningful photo!)


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dBAGZiq
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Posted: 2003-07-17 02:26
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@DubWireless

mariolouis is right...that "new" phone is not new here in the Philippines...i don't know...im currently using "that" SPV (or maybe i only have the new casing )...its been released a few months ago...

if the changes from the previous SPV is only about the software...Smart (the provider of philippine SPVs) has an updated software/version in their site.
DubWireless
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Posted: 2003-07-17 02:54
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Quote:

dBAGZiq wrote:
mariolouis is right...that "new" phone is not new here in the Philippines...



yes - it was launched in the Philippines in March (announced in February), also has a limited launch in the Middle East in June, but over here in Europe and America it's only just available - so it's new here

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dBAGZiq wrote:
Smart (the provider of philippine SPVs) has an updated software/version in their site.



that's an important point you highlight - that update is only for the SMART Amazing Phone model, installing it on any other Tanager handset can really mess it up causing SIM/Network locks and applying that operator's customisations, it's really important to only update the phone with ROM provided by the handset supplier

atb,
BrianG

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fijbert
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Posted: 2003-07-17 07:12
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not out in the americas

I might just pick one up
will make a nice change from the usual SE and Nokia
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mariolouis
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Posted: 2003-07-17 08:54
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updating the software is seemless. you can do it right in the comfort of your home. and loads of software/freeware to download. customization is endless. everything is based on xml.

@dBAGZiq
no, it's not just software. actually, more revisions were made in the hardware like better screen, joystick instead of joypad, more responsive keys, independent softkeys..

@dubwireless
have you explored action backup and action update? it's something like syncML, you can backup your data wirelessly to the Action server.
DubWireless
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Posted: 2003-07-17 14:56
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@fijbert
oops (i'll never qualify as a professional diplomat), north america? that PPCW.net site ships it worldwide now - it's the only way I got it - it's not out with an operator in Ireland either - so no subsidy

one of your fellow canadians has a great site dedicated to the MS Smartphone platform just launched this month: www.smartphonethoughts.com


@mariolouis
thanks for the info on action backup/update - i'll take a look

atb,
BrianG



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fijbert
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Posted: 2003-07-18 06:48
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well, I meant like operators
Fido just released the P800 yesterday
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Eulogy
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Posted: 2003-07-20 18:26
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Here in norway its called Qtek 7070. But it doesnt have norwegian menu. Is it possible to upgrade it?
fijbert
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Posted: 2003-07-21 05:00
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order one with norwegian menu?
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dBAGZiq
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Posted: 2003-07-21 07:42
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maybe youre referring specific menus that your norwegian provider will be putting on the phone...but a norwegian menu?
DubWireless
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Posted: 2003-07-21 16:10
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The Smartphone 2002 OS comes with US English, German, French and Spanish as the default available languages. There was a 'patch/update' that provided Arabic support to those who bought the handset in Dubai (note: do not install this unless you have the i-Mate Arabic version of the phone)

I'd get on to your operator in Norway and ask them if they will be providing an update/patch to provide support in your language.

hth,
BrianG

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lethal_cassanova
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Posted: 2003-07-22 00:23
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pls post here what programs are installed in your smart amazing fone.... what benefit can you get with that program

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