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Mimzo
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I guess we'll need to wait and see how big MS Duo sticks get and what happens to the P800. Im sure supporting a bigger capacity is something that can be solved by future software upgrades. I mean, if the stick fits in the slot then it's all software from there.
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bossjohnc
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Currently 128MB is the upper limit on the P800, but that apparently can be made higher in future firmware releases.
There are 512MB SD cards out there already - very nice if you have an SPV that takes them. Personally I don't like the memory stick and I'd rather have an MMC/SD slot, but I guess it'll have to do... |
mleeber
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I must disagree with your thoughts on Sony. Although the P800 has tremendous promise it is also plagued by Sony's arrogance. The memory stick format is far from a standard. Now enter the Memory stick duo and the arrogance is increased exponentially; yet another non-standard format that will not be on anything but Sony devices. Consider Sony's history: they introduce the Beta VCR, sell thousands, and then because of their arrogance and greed, VHS emerges as the standard in the VCR market (and beta was a better format). And let's not forget the Memory stick walkman...a great idea until Sony decided that standard memory sticks would not be allowed to work in them. Instead they would introduce a new, more proprietary memory stick with encryption originally designed to protect the copywrited music owned by Sony Entertainment Corp. Oh, and what about the ATRAC3 format instead of the MP3 standard! History shows clearly that Sony's position is the market has been as an innovator who is so concerned about insuring their revenue streams and blocking competition that they end up falling on their sword and one of their competitors takes the Sony innovation and impoves it for the real world. |
lazarini
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ms duo sucks big time ffs phones or out and they still cant give nothing to the market 64 mb u say i say thats crap to small at least 128 mb but when and the main question for what kinda cash dont get me wrong i love my p800 but this mem stick is b... s... at least for now 
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Mimzo
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mleeber>
Even if what you are saying is correct - which I personally do not see - Sony's 'arrogance' is good for us consumers. The arrogance that has led them to build non-standard formats, such as Beta in your example, which ultimately led other manufacturers to build on them and produce industry standards that everybody uses and loves is good. This, in my view, is true innovation. Nevermind that they missed out bigtime because of the failure that Beta turned out to be - Im looking at it from the perspective of a consumer who got to have VHS and use it and love it. The same can be applied to many of Sony's inventions so their arrogance is really to our benefit as consumers.
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fishd1
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I can see why Sony did it, if they force people to buy Memory stick duos rather than SD/MMC/Whatever then it raises Sonys revenue... however, I think it's a little unfair to release something like this and not have the capacity range of your competitors and also to be around twice as expensive!
That's a little "slap-in-the-face"-ish... |
jplacson
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mleeber... I think you forget that Sony is the leading consumer electronics corporation. From TVs, VCRs, DVDs, camcorders, portable music players, digital cameras, game consoles & sound systems... no other corporation has as much market share under one company.
as much as I don't like the price of the memorystick format, it's nice to know that at LEAST with Sony, the MemoryStick will be somewhat of a standard.
With the current 'standards' manufacturers still don't stick to one format either...so what's the use??? We have CF (Type 1 and 2), MMC, SD, and Smart Media. Investing in one or the other doesn't guarantee interoperability either! If I buy a camera that uses CF, I can't use that on my Palm that uses SD. Nor can I use them on my laptop without an adapter for each format.
At least SE threw in a memstick adapter. Vaios, Clies, Cybershots, Handycams, and even the Wegas use the Memstick... that's a wide range of electronics that use one format. The Duo is backwards compatible, and we all have adapters anyway (seeing as ALL current Duo users are P800 users...Sony made sure everyone got an adapter as well)
I can now use my Duo with a Clie. I can sell my old Memory sticks to people who do NOT need the Duo... I can now change ALL my Memory sticks to the Duo format and maintain interoperability! I can't say the same for Smart Media & MMC...the so-called 'standards'.
It's not a perfect world... in a perfect world... we'd have ONE, and only ONE format for memory. It would be cheap... and future-proof. So far... only Sony has taken the extra steps to make a NEW standard (The Duo) backwards compatible...and gave all early adopters a Duo adapter... so now, my Duos will work with all existing memstick devices as well. |
Mimzo
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mplacson>
Well said, I couldn't agree more
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Posted: 2003-02-25 16:17
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