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baileynash
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Posted: 2003-02-25 10:04
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The only SE phone with a problem is that crappy T65 piece of junk. But as for their other phones, ain't no problems. Nokia I don't think has probs either :S. As for Mac, Mac is the worst, Microsoft is by far the leading and better company.
T300 Is My LIFE.... Now I want a nokia Camera Phone
iyiinsan
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Posted: 2003-02-25 10:07
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@d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z

I think Mac rocks cause I bought a new PC a week ago - P4 2,4 Ghz, 256 mb ddr-ram, Windows XP Home, etc, etc... And an iMac I used two years ago had better performance!!! It was also less buggy and it was easier to use...

I think that Nokia is the same as my PC - there are deluding features but It doesn't satisfy me but has everything I want and need... Go and Mac!!!

PS: I'm a bad, betraying PC user!!!
dazbradbury
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Posted: 2003-02-25 10:41
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No way, PC's are so much better, i'm not saying that microsoft is great because i dont think it is, but the design seems so much better than that of a mac. There is so much more available for pc and at half the price, plus my freind has a G4 dual 1ghz with two sweet flatscreens, ok it looks sweet and i would love the screens, but the price he payed was outrageous, and my PC (2ghz P4, 512 sd ram) is so much more reliable and quick, i understand that the mac procecessor and hardware is essentially better, but his seems to crahs constantly and allways slow down. maybe it's OSX?? i'm not sure, but i am a PC fan and i think i will be for quite a long time....
TheScorp
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Posted: 2003-02-26 03:24
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...and the discussion could go on, and on and on and on.

Nokia was the first one with the brilliant design, and a VERY easy menu system, and that is why they have the biggest part of the market today. And the same goes for Microsoft, they gave out a system which was easy to operate and got it out before Apple even realised that they copied most of it

But still, both MAC and PC have their primary working area, and the discussion is dumb considering that PC != Windows. PC are more than just Windows. But people are like always having problems seeing that ;p

ALl systems have like I said, a primary working area, and that is the way its gonna be!

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Edmund Johansen
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Posted: 2003-02-26 03:54
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i've used both for many years. i think both are good but different: mac good 4 music and design, win better for business. yes, frequent upgrade cost $$, but thats what pays for new innovation. winxp pro is a stable, powerful and attractive os. 1 downside of win - you have 2 b part techie to fix missing drivers, etc.

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dBAGZiq
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Posted: 2003-02-26 04:55
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nokia made better phones before...5110, 6150 are some of the good samples...which also made them big...but after that...their phones become of less build quality...i remember i can roll down the stairs my old ericsson...while when my 3210 fell once the LCD broke...

Yes...Nokia build good phones...before...but now...they still have excellent phone designs but the build quality lacks

Windows always hang and crash right?

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TheScorp
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Posted: 2003-02-26 05:08
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Not all true...Nokia is now producing mobile phones with LOW quality part, which saves a lot of money for them, and they sell with more profit. Thats why the phones are cheaper than the SE once. But you pay for the quality of the SE phones, the quality and the design

But a PC is NOT (!=) WINDOWS! Get that into your minds ;p

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Edmund Johansen
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ratGT
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Posted: 2003-04-01 04:33
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All you junk heads & brainwashed pinheads, engrave some facts into your brain, and then get out in public and talk about mobiles and computers:

1) Microsuck is not competing against Mac, but against Apple! Dumbf**k!
---> THIS goes to "baileynash"

2) Because a company sells at this moment more units than another one, it doesn't mean that it's better! (This goes for the Microsoft / Apple contradiction). It's like saying that Hyundai is better than Ferrari, because it sells more cars! Ferrari is better in any aspect... Oh, Macs (Ferraris) are pricy, but people usually go with the saying "What you pay is what you get!..."
---> THIS goes to "d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z" and "dazbradbury"

3) PCs have better design than Macs? When the average PC is a boring grey box, and the average Mac is an impressive iMac or PowerMac?

Things cost more on Macs? When a PC has to be upgraded at its best twice a year, and a Mac you don't touch it for at least 3-4 years after you've bought it?

A P4 2Ghz performs better than a Dual 1Ghz Mac? When the same large picture, at the same graphix program (ex. Photoshop) loads 70% faster on the Mac? When the P4 looks like a retard after opening 3-4 programs at the same time (while keeping them doing things) and at the Mac you run 6 or more flawlessly?
I challenge you to do something on your P4, that i do with my humble 1Ghz Mac (NOT a dual!) - Do the following things at the same time: Start burning a full CD-R (Or even better DVDs, like i do), keep opening large pictures on your graphix program, download many files simultaneously with your favorite sharing client (ex. KaZaA), print pictures at the same time, while watching video clips and listening to MP3s on your favorite music player (ex. Winamp)... Just let me see that!
---> THIS goes to "dazbradbury"

4) A PC is more reliable than a Mac with OS X, because it crashes much less? Ha ha ha... This was the top of the cream!!! Windows with its legendary "Blue Screens" have an outstanding history from 95, 98, ME, 2000 and up to XP in crashing, while i have never, EVER witnessed my OS X to crash (And I continuously push my Mac to its limits!). Especially from OS X Jaguar and on (OS 10.2), it is almost impossible!

5) Nokia was the first one with brilliant design? Oh yeah? How about when Ericsson in 1993 came out with GH 337, the worlds first small and stylish mobile with a proper menu, while Nokia at the same was only known in some countries for the making of TVs...
---> THIS goes to "TheScorp"

6) Microsoft gave out a system (Windows?) which was easy to operate and got it out before Apple even realised that they copied most of it? Ehm... Hold on... HAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...

In 1984, a computer came out in the name of Macintosh, produced by Apple, which was operated through a graphical interface, which featured also windows, had sound and was controlled by a mouse. At the same time, PCs where operated by a system called DOS (Ehm, Windows weren't event on Bill's mind then), which showed only white, green or orange letters and numbers
on black background (Yeah!), and was only controlled by the keyboard. Proper sound (and not bleeps or Midi sounds through Adlib cards) was started being heard on PCs in early 90s (through the even-today-existing SoundBlaster), and proper window system on 1995, through Windows 95!...
---> THIS goes also to "TheScorp"


AND FOR THE RECORD, I've owned and tried almost all Ericsson/ Sony Ericsson mobiles (From GH 198 to P800) and Nokia (From 2110 to 7650). I've been also an owner of an Amstrad, a Commodore, a Spectrum, an Amiga and lots of PCs and their upgrades. Only the last year I?ve been using a Mac. Guess if I?ll ever be returning to PCs...

laffen
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Posted: 2003-04-01 05:06
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@ratGT

For the record. Please check the comparison chart on the Adobe web site
Mac vs PC
parvski
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Posted: 2003-04-01 05:13
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ratGT, nice 1
but a little harsh ......

ohh yeh, i owned an Amstrad,Commodore Vic20 and 64, a Spectrum 128k and an Amiga 500..........so SNAP!!!
roadworthy 1.1
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Posted: 2003-04-01 06:02
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all of my previous phones was ericsson or sony ericsson but when i upgrade it means a totally new phone with big leaps forward. anybody would be blind not to see that nokia is wringing money out of the consumers because of the reason that they are scattering the essential functions of a phone to different models. i recently bought a 6610 but then after a few weeks came out the 7250, an entirely same fone with just a different casing and a lens on its back, but other than that it is a 6610, 7210, or 6100 (without fm radio), and of course the 5100. if i want a triband it would be lacking bluetooth, if there is bluetooth its not tri band if both is there then the design doesnt inspire you that much.a classic example also is its 8910i, they just put the colored screen but is not third band. its not like all people can change fones as often as they want, thats why some are looking for fones that can be used for a considerable time without having the feeling that their fone belongs to the stoneage. the t68 came out years ago and is still kicking ass. i dont see any nokia models released years ago doing the same. so that was the point that till the day comes that nokia really comes up with a fone you'll want, for keeps that is, i'm sticking it out with the t68i.
cooLmaxTDi
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Posted: 2003-04-01 09:09
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Peste ang ERICSSON! Left me waiting for the successor of the great R310. Maybe a 5100 can fill the void

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Citizzen
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Posted: 2003-04-01 10:19
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Hell Yeah, thats 100% true!!

Long life MAC and
ratGT
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Posted: 2003-04-01 16:00
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@laffen

For the record, did you notice the comparison you and that guy made? Dell P4 3.06Ghz against Mac G4 Dual 1.25Ghz??? I mean, common!!! How about the latest Mac G4 Dual 1.42??? I mean, hey, if you put up a top PC, where is the corresponded top Mac? I don't think that comparison would work then...

Second of all, why don't you glue off your PC screen, get outta your room at go out at the real world!?!? Have you checked the majority of graphix pros, what they are working with? Have you ever really talked to a REAL pro, and not to your local neighborhood photo-developer? In real life my friend and out on the working field, you don't take risks. You simply trust a Mac...

And last but not least, it's stupid for you to ignore the fact that I have been a PC user for over 16 years. I begun with an 286 and DOS, and up to last year I had a P4 2,0Ghz and a AMD 2,2Ghz, with Windoze 2000 Server and XP pro respectively. I mean, common! Doesn't that by itself tell you anything??? My switch over to Mac is more than a sudden crisis... It's my real-life experience, at my work, and NOT a picture formed from some stupid Internet and magazine comparisons that I came across!


Gustaf
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Posted: 2003-04-01 18:02
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@ratGT You have compleatly right dude.

I have had Mac since -99. Two weeks ago I invested in a Ti PowerbookG4 1Ghz. After installing the office for Mac OSX it is better in any aspect than a windows based computer. And to the people complaining on Macs. I have Viritual PC ,Windows on my IMac 333mhz. What do I then miss??? Please tell me.

By the way has now only top of the line products for the moment, I wonder how much the marketshare will rise now. The T310 out two weeks after release, the T610 will be out in the middle of may around week 20 and it will cost about 4500SEK, 486€.

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