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crowing
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Posted: 2003-02-04 08:11
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On 2003-02-04 06:19, brick wrote:
After the super-triple-sommersault-sky-kick-double-cross they did on Sendo, I don't think any of the major mobile phone manufacturers will take on MS soon. Sendo learnt a bitter lesson and is now taking refuge with Symbian.



hey i really havent heard of the full story on this could you give me a link?
hjuhlin
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Posted: 2003-02-04 08:18
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Don’t forget the most important here. There are tow big OS (companies) competing here, what can be better for use the buyer? If there was only one every phone would be the same, and the developers of that OS didn’t need to push it to there limit because they are still going to be the best one. But now whit two OS competing they have to make more better things faster or they are going to loose. And how is the winner then? Yea! It is us the users. If there was no other mobile company then ericsson, does any one here think that thy would have made a phone whit a colour screen already (T68)? It’s the competition that makes then do cool stuff for so. So pleas don’t forget that!
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Posted: 2003-02-04 08:22
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SPV was a truly awfull attempt.
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Posted: 2003-02-04 08:24
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http://www.cellular-news.com/story/8080.shtml

http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=37497

http://www.brighthand.com/article/Sendo_Sues_MS_Over_Smartphone



[ This Message was edited by: brick on 2003-02-04 07:31 ]
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Posted: 2003-02-04 08:42
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@Brick, Thanks for that, i hadn`t seen those articles.
brick
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Posted: 2003-02-04 08:46
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Welcome. They are relatively old news. MS advertises all the brands which carry their platform on their website. Now, there is only ONE other phone than SPV on their website. It's downright embarrassing.

http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/smartphone/hardware/newdevices.asp
lexus
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Posted: 2003-02-04 09:13
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Funny this is that on that demo video that SPV showed error few time in few minutes. How tipicall
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Posted: 2003-02-04 17:28
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That was only problems because the phone was turned OFFLINE.

Others news:

Extract from http://www.asiatele.com/ViewArt.cfm?Magid=4&Artid=18513&Catid=5&subcat=237

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“With the launch of Windows Powered Pocket PC Phone edition and the Smartphone 2002, we managed to showcase the ability to have a seamless data and voice experience from desktop to a handheld device,” he says.

Saw notes that the device manufacturers that adopted or planned to adopt the Microsoft’s platform for wireless device in Asia: Toshiba, NEC, Casio, Hitachi in Japan, Legend TCL in China, Acer, Asustek, Compal, Inventec, Eten, HTC in Taiwan, and Samsung in South Korea. He added that the phone edition of Pocket PC was successfully launched in China, Hong Kong, Singapore and Australia.




And Samsung MS Smartphones to come

US version


European version


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MrSavoy
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Posted: 2003-02-04 17:57
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You know I am a SE fan in a big way, but I don't just dismiss the MS OS because it's from MS, thats pig headed and not very intelliegnt imo. You need to look at each phone on a case by case basis. Most of the people making retarded comments about the phone crashing and shit need to get a clue and I bet most if not all of thos people never even tried the phone out. Now I haven't either so thats why I will not comment. If you think MS will loose in the mobile OS market think again, I think with MS know how and money and savvy they will be a player. In the end it helps us all get a better product. I think that alot of you are afarid of MS and thats why you like to dog it, don't be scared, in the end we win.
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Posted: 2003-02-04 18:55
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@contaygious
u said u can play mario on P800?
cld u send me the app plz?
Nobody is perfect, I am nobody, therefore I am perfect
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Posted: 2003-02-04 19:10
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guys check this out. my-symbian compared 4 prevailing 3g fons:

http://my-symbian.com/uiq/compare.php

i hope this is informative.
bfg
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Posted: 2003-02-04 20:16
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Never ever underestimate the power and cash of Micro$oft...

I hope symbian wins, but just look at all the software Microsoft has muscled out of the market before!!

Also dont forget that Microsoft can afford to release multiple generations of bad software - their third or fourth generation is usually the one that is good... Pocket PC (incl Mobile Phone edition) is only generation two...

Now, I, like most people, happily use Windows and Office, but I just hope their domination ends somewhere...

Viva Symbian!
Viva SonyEricsson!
Viva P800!

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Cophia
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Posted: 2003-02-04 20:29
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Find out about Microsoft SmartPhone signing, and why it will cause problems with vendors looking to increase venue with their applications.


Arakin
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Posted: 2003-02-04 21:59
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On 2003-02-04 01:59, goldorak wrote:
Well, I'm not agree... because according to The Times (UK) more than 40.000 SPV have been sold since December 2002. The cost of the SPV is something like 250Euros with carrier contract and 450Euros sim-free.

YES, I LIKE SONYERICSSON BUT I'M AFRAID THEY WILL LOSE THE HIGHT TECH LEADERSHIP... BECAUSE MICROSOFT USE THE OEM STRATEGY TO CONQUEST THE MOBILE WORLD AND TO PRODUCE LOW COST PHONES.




Only 40000? That's peanuts... e.g. the Symbian phone from Nokia - 7650 has sold around two million. Also the 7650 has had the GnuBoy emulator for a long time, plus great games and it has lots and lots of freeware/shareware/commercial software - a lot more than the SPV.
There are lot of Series 60 phones coming out from major phone manufacturers around the world (Siemens & Samsung).

I've used SPV myself and it is truly awful piece of SW - slow and yes it was _buggy_ as hell. Orange has subsidised the phone a lot and it seems they are loosing lot of money from phone returns (CellphoneWarehouse sales rep has called it the "bumerang" as it always comes back for repairs)

So how come Nokia/SE be losing the game? MS SmartPhone OS has crappy sales figures / no exclusive major phone company backing(Samsung licenses "all" the OSs) / buggy OS.
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Posted: 2003-02-04 23:22
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Also the 7650 has had the GnuBoy emulator for a long time, plus great games and it has lots and lots of freeware/shareware/commercial software - a lot more than the SPV.



Hmmm... please, read this:

"Gameboy on the Orange SPV
By: Jørgen Sundgot, Tuesday, 04.02.03 15:02 GMT

Owners of Orange SPVs who have applied the certification requirement workaround now have yet another option to expand the amount of software available to them: a Gameboy emulator."
http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/3014.html

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