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Omar
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Posted: 2003-01-29 06:40
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Can you imagine a radio with the speaker designed in the back? A car stereo with the speakers placed in the trunk/boot? The P800 suffers from a serious design flaw; the speaker's at the back. Disastrous for a phone that claims to be a multi-media tool.
jplacson
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Posted: 2003-01-29 06:56
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Hmmm... an amp with a speaker in the back? Or a car w/ speakers in the trunk/boot? Hmmm...

Fender concert amps have open backs to improve acoustic quality and reduce distortion. Car speakers are usually located at the back of the car, w/ the tweeters located around the rest of the vehicle. The best sounding laptops have a speaker located UNDER the laptop.

Anyway, that aside, I found that the P800 weird-speaker placement actually works best on a conference table, screen face up... the audio actually bounces off the table and gets magnified!

I don't know if this was intentional... but the speakerphone and other multimedia functions actually sound better in a conference room with this speaker placement.
pachy
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Posted: 2003-01-29 07:16
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I was just going to say that, the default speaker is at the front of the p800 the "speaker phone" is on the back for several reasons,
You would`nt want it in your ear by accident would you.
Sounds are fuller when bounced off hard surfaces,
Cars DO have speakers in the boot for this reason,
Because the sound is reflected it means you get it in BOTH ears at a similar level which can only be acheived by placing it at the back.
People who know about accoustics angle their home hifi speakers to get the best reflection rather than aiming them at one point in the middle of the room which just looks neat but is often not the best sound.
A good example of this is a grand piano when in a concert hall the half open angled lid is the hard surface that the sound bounces off, without the lid the sound is worse & not as loud.
It`s the reason kids at school complain the p800 is not loud enough, as they are often in a large open area outdoors, this is where the p800 fails to give good sound reproduction on speakerphone.

[ This Message was edited by: pachy on 2003-01-29 06:25 ]
Rashkae
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Posted: 2003-01-29 07:19
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Plus, should you stick the P800 in your pocket, it'll be screen-down, right? So having the speaker at the back will actually make sure you hear the phone.

As for the original topic, I have found the P800 to be louder than the 7650.
pajon82
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Posted: 2003-01-29 09:48
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Well, some say that the P800 sound better, some not.

When I get my phone later this week (I hope), I will compare the 7650 and P800 in several ways.

Then I give you the results...it will be interesting!

/ Patrik
Omar
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Posted: 2003-01-29 15:03
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@jplacson, @pachy, yes car speakers are placed in the boot but the sound distribution faces out into the car. I personally haven't found the sound quality or volume improved on my P800. To the contrary. The placement makes it hard (for me at least) to conduct a proper conversation unless I pick up the phone in Speaker mode. Just like the Communicator 9210i I think the volume is still too low while in speakerphone mode.
Just a user's opinion anyway, and I still haven't been able to find the lost MP3 in the system!!!
pachy
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Posted: 2003-01-29 20:07
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@Omar, have you tried
control panel
storage manager
files
Then tap on location to "internal" & go through the "type options"
then tap on location to "Duo" & go through the "type optrions".
pajon82
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Posted: 2003-01-30 17:29
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Confirmed....
The P800 plays the ringtones a hell higher when you call the phone...
about 50% more for me...


I have also found a way to "preview" the ringtone in the "right" volume...
Press: phone>>edit>>preferences...
pick sounds and alerts

Then just click on the horn beside the song...in this way it plays as loud as it will be doing when you recieve a call.

I have converted the oridignal "Happy here.mp3"...I took the best part, reduced it to mono, 22000 and 16 bit.
20 sec long takes about 1.5 Mb.
I did edit it in cool edit 2000.

The sound is perfect and VERY loud!
So just get the file and edit it...
www.clubsonyericsson.com/en
or just fallow this link to get my copy of it (perfect). =)

http://w1.441.telia.com/~u44108469/Happy.wav

Take care!

Best regards, Patrik

[ This Message was edited by: pajon82 on 2003-01-31 09:27 ]
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